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Page Rank Update?

 11:22 pm on Oct 22, 2013 (gmt 0)

Is anyone else seeing anything to contradict Matt Cutts' statements about no more Page Rank Updates in 2013?

I'm seeing changes across some sites, and although I'm definitely leaning in one direction, I'm not sure if we're talking a PR update here or Google coming down with the hammer.



 1:00 am on Oct 23, 2013 (gmt 0)

Just checked a sample list of 100 domains and none have changed in PR. With Google, anything is possible though. Instead of full exports, they may be releasing updated PR at a snails pace just to add more confusion.


 1:08 am on Oct 23, 2013 (gmt 0)

No change here.


 4:07 am on Oct 23, 2013 (gmt 0)

I have 2 sites that have picked up lots of high pr links since the last update. One has gone viral so I am expecting a pretty big jump for that site, neither has changed pagerank.

I am personally betting that PR will be going the way of the dodo soon if it hasn't already.


 9:30 am on Oct 23, 2013 (gmt 0)

No changes here since ±February/March.


 4:44 pm on Oct 23, 2013 (gmt 0)

Apparently Matt said at Pubcon that whatever pipeline they use to upload it to the toolbar broke this year, and nobody is currently working on the fix. So don't look for an update this year.


 4:46 pm on Oct 23, 2013 (gmt 0)

JUST saw that tweet ... so as I figured, targeted action on some sites.


 4:51 pm on Oct 23, 2013 (gmt 0)

Yes, I can confirm, it's broken and there's no plan to fix it, certainly this year.


 11:53 pm on Oct 23, 2013 (gmt 0)

I have long thought that Google regretted letting us see pagerank values. It just makes certain sites targets for spam. I think they will remove it totally and we will just have to get on with our lives.


 10:27 pm on Oct 25, 2013 (gmt 0)

I just saw on one of my sites that was built few months ago that went from N/A pagerank to a pagerank of 2. My other websites didnt change.


 10:38 pm on Oct 25, 2013 (gmt 0)

People still check that little green bar thingy?


 10:38 pm on Oct 25, 2013 (gmt 0)

I will say that it is curious that we are still experiencing these changes in PR, regardless of the reason or direction, given what Google has said regarding the pipeline being broken.

I don't know the in's and out's of their pipeline. I think I can accept that manual penalties could be implemented and affect PR without a full on update/push, but a brand new site jumping from n/a to 2 seems to indicate that something is still functioning here in some capacity.

Maybe the pipeline they mention only comes into play on the full PR updates for all sites and not smaller updates and manual actions? So we could continue to see movement in PR for these reasons?

Any thoughts?

Robert Charlton

 10:04 am on Oct 26, 2013 (gmt 0)

Note that we're referring to TBPR (Toolbar Page Rank) here. Matt made it clear that Google continues to keep PageRank updated internally... it's just the Toolbar that isn't changing.

I got the sense, from Matt's statement at PubCon, that... for reasons viral's post suggests... Google might be rethinking the question of whether to show TBPR at all. Not anything Matt said specifically... just the lack of importance Google seems to be attaching to the display.

That said, I am seeing enough reports that Google is using it TBPR selectively to suggest Google also finds the display useful in some cases.


 7:17 pm on Oct 28, 2013 (gmt 0)

I think they will remove it totally and we will just have to get on with our lives.

I'm a big fan of TBPR and I think removing it would cause Google to lose part of its charm :-)


 7:35 pm on Oct 28, 2013 (gmt 0)

So are we basically saying that everything that keeps the TBPR data and does the math is working just fine, but it's just that Google is not bothering to fix whatever is causing the display of TBPR to show the old results?

Whereas other browser plugins/extensions are using that same data and properly showing the updated new results?


 7:58 pm on Oct 28, 2013 (gmt 0)

Half right. I think we are saying that even though the PageRank continues to change, those changes are not exported to display; whether Google tool bar PR or any other PR checker/plugins. I have not seen any reports of some toolbar plugins/extensions working while not working on others. I think you may be confusing this with the fact that Google has removed the PR tool bar option from every browser apart from IE?

In some rare cases, we have seen sites jump to immediate PR but these normally are sites that have existing link profile and have therefore not lost their PR in the first place. We have two examples of this.


 8:46 pm on Oct 28, 2013 (gmt 0)

That's the thing though -- I AM seeing changes in the display.

I haven't used IE in years -- FF previously and now Chrome only -- but I am observing changes in PR displayed in a Chrome extension within the last month.

Google doc scripts reporting on PR showing the same changes.


 11:43 pm on Nov 15, 2013 (gmt 0)

Has there been any other hints that changes may still be occurring at some level?

While I haven't seen any further movement, the changes I observed previously are still appearing.

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