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Google Updates and SERP Changes - September 2013
diberry

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 2:34 pm on Sep 1, 2013 (gmt 0)


System: The following 5 messages were cut out of thread at: http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4598423.htm [webmasterworld.com] by robert_charlton - 1:07 pm on Sep 2, 2013 (PST -8)


I've had two interesting situations lately which are very similar.

(1) One of my pages was #1 for "short widget phrase". Two weeks ago Google replaced me with a Wikihow page which actually took what I did and went a little further, as good competitors should. Last week, that page got an inbound from a hugely popular website (sent me quite a few thousand visitors), with the anchor text "here", as in "find it here". My position did not improve.

(2) Another page on another domain has been ranking well for "short phrase" and "less short phrase". These are competitive phrases. My page had fought its way up to #2 for both, which was exciting. Then it fell back to 5 and 10, and then lower. Then a popular Pinterest user pinned it late last night using "less short phrase" and it's bounced back a few positions already this morning. It's in flux, but it's averaging to 4 and 9 right now.

I'm starting to doubt there's *anything* to the algo but "count the links, check the anchor text." Google goes on and on about various signals, but when you get right down to it, actual ranking changes consistently happen ONLY in response to the addition or loss of links with the anchor text of your keyphrase. All else is a smokescreen, LOL.

 

reseller

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 6:44 pm on Sep 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Matt's statement suggests to me that Panda is now ongoing...


Not ongoing. It takes around 10 days for Panda part to roll out in the main process for indexing. That usually takes place around once a month.

EditorialGuy

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 8:29 pm on Sep 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Not ongoing. It takes around 10 days for Panda part to roll out in the main process for indexing. That usually takes place around once a month.


Have you watched Matt's most recent video about Panda? He starts talking about the new integration of Panda into the main algorithm about 40 seconds into the video:

[youtube.com...]

vitorius



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 9:25 pm on Sep 13, 2013 (gmt 0)

Posted this afternoon about positive rankings and being on top pages and now at night my rankings go down as they were before. 3 hour happiness, lol

helenp

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 11:02 am on Sep 14, 2013 (gmt 0)

Posted this afternoon about positive rankings and being on top pages and now at night my rankings go down as they were before. 3 hour happiness, lol

Just checked and got the same impression, however no,
today I searched for widget widgets and same as before,
but yesterday I think I searched for widget widget, in singular, so I just did, and I am still on first position.
So google makes at this moment a big diggerence (3 pages difference in some cases) for widget and widgets on a 2 keywords search

vitorius



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 2:54 pm on Sep 14, 2013 (gmt 0)

This happened to me in the begining of September to have top pages in most of countries for a day, then the other day my website went to old positions like page 3,4,5 and 6 and on 13th when I checked again was again for top pages in all countries but today am again on old positions, page 3,4,5 and 6. Am thinking that my site deserves the place to be on top pages with the algorithm but it seems to me that some kind of force is pushing it back. Didn't ever see something like this since Im looking at the serps for last 3 years.
Something new is brewing and it aint pretty.
Some are getting lucky but the rest is hanging behind. Otherwise, my positions for my seasonal website are getting better and better on Bing and Yahoo and other search engines.

Edit: My website is always the first for certain keywords on Google Blogs when I make a new post so it ain't penalized for sure.

Martin Ice Web

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 7:18 am on Sep 16, 2013 (gmt 0)

Since this last update, we have a 54% increase of bing referrals. Seems a little shifting towards other SE in good old germany.
I think poeple a sick of seeing Amazon in first place for all searches.

ecom, germany

Panthro



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 5:11 pm on Sep 18, 2013 (gmt 0)

Does anyone know where Google Algorithm Change History thread went?

JD_Toims

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 5:29 pm on Sep 18, 2013 (gmt 0)

There's a link to it in the Hot Topics thread: [webmasterworld.com...]

Panthro



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 5:59 pm on Sep 18, 2013 (gmt 0)

Thank you JD_Toims. Seems like that should be an easy one to find searching but it didn't show up anywhere.

petehall

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 7:15 am on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Seeing significant shift here in the UK, biggest in a long time. Affecting all verticals I watch.

JD_Toims

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 7:21 am on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Seems like that should be an easy one to find searching but it didn't show up anywhere.

It sure seems like it should be easy to find to me too, but I tried both Bing and Google before I searched for the Hot Topics here at WebmasterWorld [meaning I had to search for "Hot Topics site:webmasterworld.com" to find the thread I knew it was linked from] -- I probably wouldn't have found the link if I didn't know it was posted in the Hot Topics thread and searched for that instead of the specific thread you were looking for, even though it seems like a simple search to "get right" to me -- Sometimes I think search engines "guess too much" rather than just showing what I [we] searched for exactly.

reseller

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 10:01 am on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

I think an algorithm update has been rolled out since yesterday 19th September 2013.

Anybody has noticed any +/- changes in organic traffic?

Uber_SEO

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 10:59 am on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Yeah - seeing big changes in the UK too. Some big leaps for the sites I'm watching across big generic keywords. Looking good - let's hope it stays

superclown2

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 11:20 am on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

I didn't think it possible but I'm seeing even more scarcely relevant big brand pages in the top positions even for very small niche phrases in a major UK vertical. Three or four brands are dominating just about every possible search term combination.

A college kid could write an algo that achieved that.

rhyd



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 11:44 am on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Can't see any changes here, also UK.

petehall

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 12:00 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

I think an algorithm update has been rolled out since yesterday 19th September 2013.


I think you must be right as it's affected so much.

Jez123

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 12:01 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

My SERPs haven't shifted here in the UK. I'm also not seeing anyone elses shifted much

Wilburforce

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 1:47 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

My SERPs haven't shifted here in the UK. I'm also not seeing anyone elses shifted much


Same here. Nothing that looks any different to the general endemic shuffling.

Bubba



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 2:21 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Seeing changes here as well since yesterday, there must be an update going on. Brands are taking over top 3 positions on several keywords.

EditorialGuy

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 2:45 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

I've been seeing a modest uptick in Google referrals since Sept. 16 or so, and WMT shows an upward trend in average rankings this week. Nothing dramatic: just enough of a change to be noticeable.

Also, I wonder how much meaning the term "Google update" has these days, now that Panda has been folded into the main algorithm.

On a related note, I haven't seen a deep crawl on my site since a record-breaking crawl of July 11 (more than two months ago), which was followed by the Panda update of July 18. Daily crawls are consistently higher (but with fewer extreme dips and spikes) than they used to be, though.

CaptainSalad2



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 2:51 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Seeing what I call the "randomised" update roll out, sites that switched around with the last update have now all switched back...again, as they have back and forth for the past 10+ updates. Next update they will no doubt switch back again!

The fun dont stop!

P.S there is another new addition to the UK mobile SERPS where the background of the adds is now white but there is a CLEAR icon next to each add saying "add".

diberry

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 3:08 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

One of my sites got a deep crawl on September 11. The others didn't. *shrug*

Not really seeing any big changes in my niches.

Dymero



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 3:34 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

I'm not sure if this is just a fluke or if Google is testing something, but last week and this week I noticed that in each week one SERP I track went to nine results. The commonality between them was that a news vertical was displayed.

reseller

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 7:11 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Folks!

Would you be kind to see whether there are remarkable changes in the pattern of countries/states that are referring organic traffic to your sites. You may also wish to see whether there are changes +/- in rate of conversions on your sites.

Wilburforce

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 7:26 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

pattern of countries/states that are referring organic traffic to your sites


30% drop in UK referrals in the last 24 hours (and slightly more from USA), but I'd have to to look at the stats in a lot more detail to say how far off normal that is.

Conversions? My Inbox is empty, and the phone doesn't ring.

diberry

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 8:26 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

Reseller, last weekend I noticed I was getting a lot more UK and AU traffic than normal (I'm US based), but it went back to normal after a few days and is still normal for me. Note that I didn't check to rule out the possibilities something was actually just causing people in those countries to search my terms more, though. Once in a while there's a news story on TV or something and it will boost my international search traffic for a few days.

Shepherd



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 10:32 pm on Sep 20, 2013 (gmt 0)

changes +/- in rate of conversions on your sites.


google traffic down slightly, conversion rates up slightly.

reseller

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 7:26 am on Sep 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

Today Saturday 21th September 2013, I see what it could be a Rollback to the pattern/situation before start of current update of 19th September 2013

Bubba



 
Msg#: 4606861 posted 11:13 am on Sep 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

I also see multiple results from the same domain again on some queries(domain clustering). Those multiple results where 'fixed' before but they seem to be back again since the 19th!

tabish

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 11:39 am on Sep 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

Those multiple results where 'fixed' before


No.. Multiple results were NEVER fixed.. may be you were not seeing it in your niche but I was seeing sometimes whole first page filled with just the results of single domain

gouri

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Msg#: 4606861 posted 3:16 pm on Sep 21, 2013 (gmt 0)

I think that there was some type of update on Sep. 19.

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