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Wordpress site: Google adds site title to page title
epmaniac



 
Msg#: 4551953 posted 4:07 am on Mar 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

The wordpress site title under setting tab is getting indexed by being appended to the page title + Website Title

The usual page titles that i had set up in seo plugins are not getting indexed...

I have read that google sometimes re-writes title, but does it re write every title of every page... or is this a bug which I am facing..

My website has gone down in traffic in latest update (yesterday) and I had altered site title slightly few days back...

Are the two events related?

 

garyr_h

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Msg#: 4551953 posted 8:49 am on Mar 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

May or may not be. See the Google Updates thread. Many others are also seeing changes right now. IMHO, changing titles DOES affect rank for X amount of days/weeks/months. It's best not to mess with them once they are set.

As for using the SEO plugins to change the titles...I think that's what Google doesn't want. It's obvious SEO and doesn't help visitors. Placing the website name in the title is Google's way of saying, "Hey! If you trust this website name, then click here!"

netmeg

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Msg#: 4551953 posted 11:23 am on Mar 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

The first thing you need to figure out is if Google is doing it or WordPress is doing it. If it's WordPress (and I suspect it is) then you can change your settings or use an SEO plugin to take the site name out of your title.

As for using the SEO plugins to change the titles...I think that's what Google doesn't want. It's obvious SEO and doesn't help visitors. Placing the website name in the title is Google's way of saying, "Hey! If you trust this website name, then click here!"


This is not true at all. The title needs to describe the page. That's not manipulation.

epmaniac



 
Msg#: 4551953 posted 2:47 pm on Mar 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

The seo plugin is showing correct title on the website (the title that I want).. but google is indexing

page name - website name

I dont know why

epmaniac



 
Msg#: 4551953 posted 2:50 pm on Mar 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

A scrapper had scrapped my complete site and had started several websites out of it, with just title on empty pages... its now ranking right above me. And I am gone..

This happened around 3 weeks ago.

TheOptimizationIdiot



 
Msg#: 4551953 posted 4:48 pm on Mar 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

As for using the SEO plugins to change the titles...I think that's what Google doesn't want. It's obvious SEO and doesn't help visitors.

I have to disagree: [youtube.com...]

FranticFish

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Msg#: 4551953 posted 7:44 am on Mar 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

As for using the SEO plugins to change the titles... It's obvious SEO and doesn't help visitors

Are you sure? Searchers use keywords. Putting them in your title shows them that your page is about what they've searched for.

garyr_h

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Msg#: 4551953 posted 8:44 am on Mar 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

It depends on how you are using it. If you are using it specifically to get visitors from Google and it doesn't help the visitors (non-Google ones), then that's what Google doesn't want.

Google is trying to become a more natural engine, meaning, they want to serve information that people want without manipulation and that the user will be interested in.

sid786

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Msg#: 4551953 posted 3:13 pm on Mar 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

Google does the same thing for my website, and I don't know why. I just live with it.

Robert Charlton

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Msg#: 4551953 posted 5:22 am on Mar 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

It's hard to tell whether the SEO plugin had any thing to do with your problem, as you don't describe the time sequence of what's happened, and you don't indicate what you had the plugin do. I'm wondering, eg...

- When did the SEO plugin come into it?
- Did the site always use the SEO plugin to rewrite the title, or is that something new?
- Also, did you use the plug-in to change all of the titles on the site at the same time?

Can you give us a sense (using example terms like widgets, gizmos, kwd1, kwd2, etc) of what pattern your titles had (ie, the titles you liked)... and how long they were in place before Google rewrote them.

Chances are that neither WordPress nor the plugin has anything to do with why you've gotten rewritten, but it sounds like the choices you made are hurting you.

In my experience, titles that get rewritten are generally too long and stuffed with keywords, or too short and not descriptive of the content or function of the page. There's nothing wrong with keywords in the title... that's perfectly natural... but long lists of keyword variations that exceed Google's default display length are a technique that's not helpful and will cause Google to change the title.

If Google wants to display the company name in your titles, that might indicate that Google thinks your company name might help click-throughs. I'd look upon that as a positive sign.

This thread discusses some of the things you're observing....

Google is now rewriting all my page titles
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4480232.htm
[webmasterworld.com]

The topic has been discussed a lot here. I'd use Google to search webmasterworld.com for threads on the topic, using searches like...

[google rewriting page titles site:webmasterworld.com]

FranticFish

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Msg#: 4551953 posted 11:10 am on Mar 10, 2013 (gmt 0)

If you are using it specifically to get visitors from Google and it doesn't help the visitors (non-Google ones), then that's what Google doesn't want.

Not sure I follow you. The title is invisible to humans unless they search in Google or bookmark the page. It's there to HELP Google and searchers, but it's of no interest at all to non-Google visitors.

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