louieramos
msg:4538152 | 4:39 am on Jan 22, 2013 (gmt 0) |
As far as I know responsive design uses javascript and Google doesn't index anything within that javascript [support.google.com...] so there shouldn't be any concern in the page level.
I haven't tried this myself, I would like to hear from someone too who actually have done this.
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deadsea
msg:4538298 | 11:12 am on Jan 22, 2013 (gmt 0) |
A few years ago, I took a massive site (22 million pages) through a full site redesign. We kept the urls, titles, and meta all the same. Pages kept their main content the same. The design was completely overhauled with new header, sidebars and footer. We were very concerned about any SEO problems and made sure we did a lot of QA to make sure the stuff that wasn't supposed to change, didn't change at all. In the end, we pulled the switch, made the change, and Google didn't see to notice at all. Our crawl levels stayed constant. Traffic levels didn't even flicker. This kind of change can done without having an SEO effect.
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netmeg
msg:4538310 | 11:51 am on Jan 22, 2013 (gmt 0) |
Almost all my sites are in responsive design. No noticeable effect on organic traffic (if anything, it's gone up)
You may, however, notice differences in the way mobile users experience your site.
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topr8
msg:4538312 | 12:06 pm on Jan 22, 2013 (gmt 0) |
>>As far as I know responsive design uses javascript
not here, all my new sites use a responsive design that is pure css driven.
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migumbo
msg:4538362 | 4:06 pm on Jan 22, 2013 (gmt 0) |
Deadsea, did you pay at lot of attention to how the DOM? Did you bother with page comparisons at the HTML level? Our pages look very different now (at least to Google).
Also, we not just worried about the responsive side of things, but I guess the fact that we've moved over to Wordpress.
Having said that, the content is all still the same, and the page loading times are about 1/10th what they used to be.
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deadsea
msg:4538364 | 4:15 pm on Jan 22, 2013 (gmt 0) |
Our DOMs were completely overhauled. We moved from a table based layout with lots of inline styling to a div based layout with css styling.
From an SEO standpoint, I was most worried about the position of navigation links within the source code of the page. Would it matter if they moved from the left column to the footer? We did some testing on moving the navigation on a portion of the site before the new design launched and ended up keeping the navigation in the left column.
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Sand
msg:4538365 | 4:19 pm on Jan 22, 2013 (gmt 0) |
I would worry less about the SEO and more about the business. For example, my site historically had registration CTAs at the top of the right sidebar. The standard for responsive themes is to shove the sidebar way down below the content, so my registration rates were abysmal for mobile visitors until I made some adjustments. Just make sure you keep those kinds of things in mind.
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nomis5
msg:4538432 | 8:27 pm on Jan 22, 2013 (gmt 0) |
Why the change to responsive design at the same time as the move to Wordpress?
Two such major changes at the same time will confuse your analysis post conversion won't it? Did Wordpress cause the gain / loss or was it the responsive design change? You will never know.
Make one of the major changes, wait six months and if all is OK go for the second major change - that would be my advice.
I hope you aren't relying on some all singing, dancing Wordpress plugin to convert your standard site to a mobile one.
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netmeg
msg:4538504 | 1:54 am on Jan 23, 2013 (gmt 0) |
I disagree. I'd do them both at the same time (and since more and more WordPress themes are native responsive out-of-the-box as it were, doing them separately may not even be a reasonable option.
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migumbo
msg:4538825 | 2:21 am on Jan 24, 2013 (gmt 0) |
Hi developed the responsive layout first, and then started to move the existing content manually to a new template. It was a hassle, and we decided to try and only touch everything once.
Maybe introducing the responsive template first might have been the best approach after all?
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indyank
msg:4538830 | 3:01 am on Jan 24, 2013 (gmt 0) |
migumbo, you can exp. fluctuations when the site IA i.e. navigation elements, every page's link structure and their anchor texts. etc., change. As long as there is no major change to these along with the content, Google might not notice the change.
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guilliam
msg:4540813 | 5:06 am on Jan 31, 2013 (gmt 0) |
i think what @migumbo is more concerned about is the DOM ang page html/php level with a flat html site and the responsive-plus-wordpress site. for me if the navigation links, sidebars, footers will be all the same with the new responsive-and-wordpress site with the old one google wont notice, as for my experience with moving flat html sites(with over 15k pages) to mambo(it was mambo by then 2004 before we move it to joomla! in 2007) it traffic was the same. having the exact same method of keeping the exact url and metas from the html site to the mambo site. no traffic difference based on the cPanel stats(we dont have google tools by then). so on my experience in addition to as what @louieramos mentioned about js; the li's and ul's in the navigation wont matter to google even completely and differently implemented in a new site. IMO, what google will give weight is the links/url's contained in the navigation and NOT how the navigation was implemented(pure css, suckerfish, etc)
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