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role of domain in site linking ?
pkKumar




msg:4534189
 7:47 am on Jan 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

Correct me if i am wrong, the no 1 factor for google PR is Link Building, whether that is before or after new algo update.

Well for my site i have assigned the process of link building to a person who used to prepare content for me and well aware with all the sites where link can be posted. Now he has managed to post good link to relevant forums but most of the links are in web directories or the site which gives website information. <snip>

So i would like to know whether google is giving importance to these types of sites.
Personally i prefer to link on those site which can give traffic to me.

One more thing, if somebody (may be rival) post my website link on a bad site, how i can prevent that ?

[edited by: goodroi at 10:46 am (utc) on Jan 8, 2013]
[edit reason] Please no specifics [/edit]

 

ZydoSEO




msg:4534308
 2:43 pm on Jan 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

If you are building links using forum spamming/signatures and directory submission, I would suggest you cease everything you're doing, try to get as many of those links taken down, and rethink what you're doing. Those methods are old news and with the advent of Penguin can lead to bad things in your site's future. If you use these techniques, they need to make up a very small percentage of your backlinks.

Figure out how to create something on your site of value to users/visitors - great content, a great tool, a great resource - that will make other sites WANT to link to your site.

Stop thinking about how you can BUILD links, and instead... think about how you can EARN them.

goodroi




msg:4534312
 2:56 pm on Jan 8, 2013 (gmt 0)

I agree with ZydoSEO.

Pagerank was very important many years ago. That is no longer the case. Quality links from relevant websites that are run by people who are very selective of whom they link out to, is where you want to focus more on.

pkKumar




msg:4534552
 8:40 am on Jan 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

ok ZydoSEO, but i have seen many of my competitors have got page rank (minimum 2) by following these type of link submission.

you also suggested to withdraw that submitted links on forum directories, how can i do that, that leads to my unanswered part: One more thing, if somebody (may be rival) post my website link on a bad site, how i can prevent that ?

ZydoSEO




msg:4534639
 1:30 pm on Jan 9, 2013 (gmt 0)

Getting to PageRank 2 and having your pages actually achieve good organic rankings are 2 totally different things. While these unnatural link building techniques may work to some extent in the short-term, you may find that when the next Penguin update rolls out that your site disappears and loses 80% or so of its traffic.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. It's a lot easier to prevent your team from building crappy links now than it is to get those links taken down later once your site is in trouble.

You can do what you want... but IMHO unnatural link building using article submission, directory submission, forum signature links, etc. is like playing with a loaded gun. Using them to build a very small percentage of your links might be ok, but if those make up the majority of your links, its likely just a matter of time before it backfires.

Unfortunately, you cannot prevent others from building links to your site, even from a bad site. All you can do is try to deal with it afterwards.

PS: If your sites are disposable then perhaps this type of link building is ok. Perhaps the short-term gains from those sites out weigh the long-term risk of getting filtered/penalized.

My clients' sites as well as my own are not disposable, so I typically take a longer view on link building (and content generation), especially in light of all of the changes over the last few years at Google. It means more work on the front end to create something of value that is worthy of links from other webmasters. But this makes getting editorial, natural links from other webmasters MUCH easier once it is built and eliminates the need for low quality, unnatural link building where you "plant" links on other webmasters' sites.

pkKumar




msg:4534920
 5:18 am on Jan 10, 2013 (gmt 0)

@Zydo, That is very useful information.

Unfortunately, you cannot prevent others from building links to your site, even from a bad site.

That's the most unfortunate thing i guess.

Is requesting the webmaster of the site only way to remove already submitted links.

pkKumar




msg:4535424
 6:48 am on Jan 12, 2013 (gmt 0)

All you can do is try to deal with it afterwards
Well just found that google has announced disavaw tool in the GWT in oct-nov 2012. It can be a handy tool if in the future the site gets in trouble due to bad links that would be posted by your competitor
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