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WMT reporting sites as healthy 6 months after 1st Penguin
Shepherd




msg:4512942
 11:35 am on Oct 27, 2012 (gmt 0)

In WMT you can order websites by health, noticed this week that almost exactly 6 months after the April 24 penguin attack that sites of ours that were showing in the unhealthy range have moved back into the healthy range.

Rankings for keywords affected have not returned to pre-penguin levels but they have improved some.

 

n00b1




msg:4513165
 8:00 am on Oct 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

I thought site health just related to critical issues and anything you get notifications for on WMT (which isn't Penguin).

jinxed




msg:4513167
 8:55 am on Oct 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

Penguin is purely algorithmic, so I am pretty sure any ‘unhealthy’ indicators would not be Penguin related.

Shepherd




msg:4513176
 11:32 am on Oct 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

Good points, we received unnatural link notices days after penguin hit, looks like those notices have expired?

jinxed




msg:4513181
 12:20 pm on Oct 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

Sorry, I am not sure I was clear with my previous post.

Receiving unnatural link warnings may well be a factor if you have been affected by Penguin – but Google would not use GWT to explicitly notify you that you have been hit by the update, because it is 100% algorithmic.

mhansen




msg:4513182
 12:22 pm on Oct 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

In our case, a site with Penguin Flu never showed any relocation in WMT's, and stayed in the health order it was always in. However, last week, we used the link disavow tool, and the site immediately moved to the bottom of the list when sorted by health.

Shepherd




msg:4513184
 12:48 pm on Oct 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

jinxed, you were clear, I was backing up what you were saying, penguin probably did not effect the health ranking in wmt, it was likely the unnatural link warning.

aristotle




msg:4513192
 1:57 pm on Oct 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

In our case, a site with Penguin Flu never showed any relocation in WMT's, and stayed in the health order it was always in. However, last week, we used the link disavow tool, and the site immediately moved to the bottom of the list when sorted by health.


This seems like a strange cause and effect, if that's what it was. As if Webmaster Tools didn't know the site's health was poor until you submitted the Disavow list for it. Odd

Elsmarc




msg:4513251
 6:03 pm on Oct 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

Cutts warned that most sites shouldn't use the link disavow tool. You may be dumping what are (were) "good" links.

mhansen




msg:4513254
 6:16 pm on Oct 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

As if Webmaster Tools didn't know the site's health was poor until you submitted the Disavow list for it.


Yep... We have a total of 8 sites in this WMT account and the site in question was always listed 2-3rd in the list, until we filed the disavow request last week, now its at the bottom of the list.

Re: Good/bad links...

We only submitted about 30-40 bad links, and we are confident each of them needs to be taken down.

MH

backdraft7




msg:4513333
 2:51 am on Oct 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

Cutts warned that most sites shouldn't use the link disavow tool.


Zorg's ZF-1 has a little red button that works similarly to the link disavow tool.
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themaninthejar




msg:4513381
 1:35 pm on Oct 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

Delete the messages in WMT associated with a site and i immediately goes from "bad health" to "good health". Meaningless...

Shepherd




msg:4513388
 1:51 pm on Oct 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

Delete the messages in WMT associated with a site and i immediately goes from "bad health" to "good health". Meaningless...


Wow, sort by health, useless sugar pill.

mhansen




msg:4513400
 3:11 pm on Oct 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

Delete the messages in WMT associated with a site and i immediately goes from "bad health" to "good health". Meaningless...


Wow... thats correct. That is a completely useless feature of WMT's.

n00b1




msg:4513404
 3:18 pm on Oct 29, 2012 (gmt 0)

It is intended for people with loads of sites who need the ones with critical issues (warning messages and such) at the top of the pile so they can try to sort it out.

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