bwnbwn
msg:4437449 | 12:21 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
I doubt the change you did is the problem, what probably happened is he has removed some links he had pointing at the site. It is hard to tell you what's going on without looking the site over and doing some research. I would join WM (I get zit from this IMO if is money well spent, been a member sine 2005 probably stay a member till a cow lands on the moon), go into the review website section. Do as best you can to offer some good points to a couple other sites in review and then submit your site. You will have the top guys in the industry pick over your site and point you in the right direction.
I myself try to teach SEO best pratices to my clients so when they decide to take it over their not in the dark on were the site is and what has been done. Not knowing you had a blog on your own site tells me it really needs to be looked over in detail.
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kirikara
msg:4437489 | 2:09 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Thanks Bwnbwn! Good advice indeed. I was guessing it might hard to tell.
Just sto clarify. It is not a blog on my own site :)
The blog was written on another platform in my name without my knowledge. It was talking about our biz to create content which was relative to what we sell and create links toward us.. (and his site).. I did not know WWW offered sections with site reviews for users. I will try to see if that is an option for us.,
thanks!
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Marketing Guy
msg:4437518 | 3:12 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
It sounds like he's setup a blog for link building purposes, so removing links from that site to your main site could cause your rankings to drop.
Essentially those links were supporting your rankings to a degree.
It's worth noting that although he's technically correct in his explanation, it would have been easy enough for Google to devalue the blog and remove any benefit your site gets from the links so the effect would have been the same.
Lesson learned here is to shoot for a diverse back link profile and not rely too heavily on one source of links (but given you only dropped a few places, it's not the end of the world).
MG
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kirikara
msg:4437526 | 3:36 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Thanks MG.. Now I did not remove links to my site from the outside blog. The only things i removed were:
links to his website (his commercial seo site)
content relating to his performance as far as seo for our business (he was talking in "my" name)
and reworded infortmation relative to our sales/strategy that i did not wish to be worded in such way or put online. (he was not authorized by the way to share that info)
That is why I am wondering if this is really possible to lose position on my main keyword by making such changes on just 1 blog (amongst others)
I have trouble believing that such drastic changes are possible from such minimal actions.
On the other hand, I am wondering if it could be from:
-his shady practices being recognized by google/panda (signing random petitions linking to our site, commenting on random unrelated blogs with user name a keyword linking to us)
-Possibility that he added a whole bunch of backlinks in the last month or 2, that ended up loosing their boost (i am showing an increase of backlinks from 1500 to 1650 in the last month)
- a accumulation of reasons, hitting me now with panda recent update.(our traffic was severely hit last year, which we have recovered since)
The more I hang out, the more it shows me how I should have spent my $ elsewhere (he rarely shared what the H he was doing,, "professional secrets" according to him..)
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netmeg
msg:4437535 | 3:47 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
It could be one thing, it could be a lot of things. Really hard to tell just from what you've mentioned here. So many things are changing all the time with Google, it's easy to conclude that one thing is a direct effect of another, when in fact they could just be a coincidence of timing, and entirely unrelated. You have some digging to do, I think.
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Rockyou
msg:4437549 | 4:09 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
I am a SEO, I can confirm u the drop in the ranking is bcoz of panda update.
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Habtom
msg:4437554 | 4:18 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| I am a SEO, I can confirm u the drop in the ranking is bcoz of panda update. |
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You can't be serious. People got to stop blaming Panda.
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kirikara
msg:4437558 | 4:22 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
:)
OK, I think we can all agree that I need to work on it more, see how things are evolving and time will tell..
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netmeg
msg:4437559 | 4:23 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Anybody who confirms anything off what we have here is ... well I'll stop there. But it can't be done.
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bunltd
msg:4437560 | 4:24 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
I agree with Netmeg, you've got some digging to do. The fact that he didn't share the details of what he was doing, is not exactly confidence inspiring.
Also keep in mind that you just stopped working with him a few days ago and things he had in the works could still have an impact for your site down the line.
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bwnbwn
msg:4437615 | 5:37 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
kirikara what I said about joing is becoming a paid member then you can see another section of the form. I think it is about 190 a year or 17 a month somthing like that. Sounds like you are wanting to take the work over so I would join let the guys/gals pick it over the site in the review area (be prepared for some tough love) and read read read. Take it all in as information to digest and build your site for the visitor. [edited by: bwnbwn at 5:44 pm (utc) on Apr 5, 2012]
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martinibuster
msg:4437620 | 5:43 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
The past week or two have seen some changes to the algo. The SERPs have been bouncing a bit. It could be some of the things he did aren't working as well. I doubt the small changes you made would have caused the change.
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lucy24
msg:4437647 | 6:43 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| Anybody who confirms anything off what we have here... |
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I think we can confirm that the OP was right to get rid of his SEO dude ;) In the long term, at least, even if the short-term picture isn't pretty.
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FranticFish
msg:4437669 | 7:34 pm on Apr 5, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| I am a SEO, I can confirm u the drop in the ranking is bcoz of panda update |
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< cough >
On a serious note, I would echo the advice to get at least one good pair of eyes on your site. And if you feel you've possibly been burnt by one provider, then a community review by knowledgable webmasters could well be the best initial option.
The drop seems a little bit sudden to be any links having been removed. Could just be bad timing. But you have to bear in mind that your site does not exist in isolation. Your page 1 result consists of your site and others too.
So, did the other sites change things?
Did their links change?
Did Google change the way it sees you - or your competitors?
There are lots of factors that go into building the top ten results for any phrase, and you also have to factor personalisation into it. What you see may well be very different from what others see.
Do your web stats show any significant or out of character changes?
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