irishsolar
msg:4443186 | 10:59 pm on Apr 19, 2012 (gmt 0) |
@petehall I can confirm that in the UK.
Strange SERPs...I own the top three spots on the SERPs on page 1 in the UK for a term that I have been completely removed for on .com.
I think this is a complete shake up going on one database at a time.
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johnhh
msg:4443188 | 11:19 pm on Apr 19, 2012 (gmt 0) |
@irishsolar
| ...I own the top three spots on the SERPs |
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nobody owns any positions
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bluntforce
msg:4443189 | 11:20 pm on Apr 19, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Saw an interesting visit in my logs from this morning.
Visitor showing an IP from Qatar
Search was something like "specific type of real estate in belgium"
The page that was served had information relating to Belgium, WI in the U.S.
While it could be considered a foreign zombie type visitor, that page could be a very reasonable result for the query except for probable user location.
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irishsolar
msg:4443190 | 11:23 pm on Apr 19, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| nobody owns any positions |
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@johnhh I concede that.
SERPs on different bowsers and different machines give different results.
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HuskyPup
msg:4443198 | 12:10 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Ok people...I am seeing a very, very US-biased set of results for my widgets at the moment, some are ok, many are total garbage, however what is very noticeable is the removal of the best results.
It was bad now it's getting even worse, for my widgets.
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garyr_h
msg:4443199 | 12:27 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Looks like I'm getting a different database right now. I'm just seeing the same one from 2 weeks ago.
@onebyone That's not how all of the updates are happening. Yes, Panda 1.0 worked that way, but I have noticed tests on non-US getting changed first.
For example, one of the databases now showing in the US I have been seeing in what you are calling "third world" for a few weeks now. Of course, that's only one of the two or three different results showing up, but it is still happening.
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BillyS
msg:4443210 | 1:12 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| Looks like I'm getting a different database right now. I'm just seeing the same one from 2 weeks ago. |
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That's what I'm thinking too. Google messed up, needed to roll back two weeks and start reprocessing all over again. Back to the future...
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backdraft7
msg:4443217 | 1:27 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
3 steps
1. Work out what you've done.
2. Fix it. |
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Woah! That's assuming you did something wrong...
I think in 90% of the recent cases, nobody did anything at all with their site. Google just suddenly changed the rules. So, wouldn't it be wise to first determine what Google did and if it's intended to stick before rushing to making changes?
MayDay took months to sort out. I expect the same for this one.
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EmptyRoom
msg:4443283 | 7:05 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Hissingsid: Thanks for your reply.
I have received a message in Webmaster Tools this morning regarding these two penalized websites... It says Quality issues. So I guess I'll have to make the content better and expand it a bit?
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petehall
msg:4443284 | 7:13 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
@gary_h and BillyS I think you are right. I'm seeing (UK) what looks like the SERPs from around the time of the site links update, whenever that was. Long tail was poor then, which would explain my findings last night.
Shame as it was finally starting to look a bit better. Although, this must be around the corner... BTTF!
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santapaws
msg:4443292 | 8:11 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
whats with google sending you a message telling you that you lost lots of traffic to your best page? its kinda rubbing your nose in it dont you think?
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bluntforce
msg:4443300 | 8:22 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Why does all this commentary remind me of years ago when there was an actual Google dance?
It seems now that Google is broken because the SERPS aren't returning what is obviously the proper order.
I've been up, I've been down, but sooner or later I'll always be found. Much easier to live that way.
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santapaws
msg:4443302 | 8:35 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
did you mean that to sound like a song?
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edwatki
msg:4443314 | 9:10 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
@EmptyRoom - Could you expand on the message you got from Google. Would you be able to post the message they sent you (witout any mention of your site).
Interested to know what they actually said as this ties in with the Overoptimise Penalty and Panda
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jkdt0077
msg:4443319 | 9:28 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| did you mean that to sound like a song? |
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Hehe
There's a particular search phrase I watch daily and it returns:
1 - 7: site1
8 - 9: site2
10: site3
In fact down to about position 15 there's only 4 different websites showing. Great stuff!
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santapaws
msg:4443338 | 10:39 am on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
this isnt new, its been clearly tested over the past months, and its clearly how they intend to move forward. Some brand searches that involve a brand name (even if its generic) plus other words are showing the big brand site with listings 1-9 then 8 out of 10 on page 2.
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SnowMan68
msg:4443354 | 12:11 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| this isnt new, its been clearly tested over the past months, and its clearly how they intend to move forward. Some brand searches that involve a brand name (even if its generic) plus other words are showing the big brand site with listings 1-9 then 8 out of 10 on page 2. |
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So whatever happened to this update from 12/1/11 straight out of the big G.
[insidesearch.blogspot.com ]
Top result selection code rewrite: This code handles extra processing on the top set of results. For example, it ensures that we don’t show too many results from one site (“host crowding”). We rewrote the code to make it easier to understand, simpler to maintain and more flexible for future extensions.
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santapaws
msg:4443369 | 12:55 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
indeed!
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backdraft7
msg:4443388 | 1:43 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
and as any programmer well knows, now it's time to debug the code.
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santapaws
msg:4443397 | 2:01 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
i dont think theres anything wrong with it from their end, to me what they are doing by showing multiple results from single sites is continuing the push down of non brand sites. the 'chatter' or 'noise' as they probably see it from their end. Nothing has changed since Florida, its been the same direction, little bit by little bit. getting the user used to a different type of search over time, more suggestions (mostly their own products) and less variety (from noisy sites).
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backdraft7
msg:4443481 | 5:10 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
The recent updates are so messed up and traffic so unstable that I find it's no longer worth reporting without sounding like a broken record. I give up. SERPs still look great but quality of traffic is terrible. Many of you will be happy to know I'm out of this topic for a while.
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Joshmc
msg:4443488 | 5:25 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
I saw a few ecommerce sites in the two niches i look at using canonical to control all refinements, paging and sorts back to the main cat page. both of them lost big in this last update, anyone else seen anything like this?
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ErnestHemingway
msg:4443529 | 7:15 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Another update/flux happened
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reseller
msg:4443552 | 8:35 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
@backdraft7
| Many of you will be happy to know I'm out of this topic for a while. |
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I find your posts very entertaining and look forward to your happy return to this thread :-)
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serpsup
msg:4443553 | 8:38 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
@backdraft7 - ditto, I like your posts as well.
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Leosghost
msg:4443556 | 8:52 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
me3 :)..some I agree with, some not..but they are coherent and not merely "railing"..( I don't normally do other than skim update and changes threads, they are like "the how is your adsense today" threads, IMO ..mostly pointless )..but you are worth reading, even when I may disagree with a particular post.. :)
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santapaws
msg:4443557 | 8:58 pm on Apr 20, 2012 (gmt 0) |
why am i getting non-video results when making a video search?
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Bill_H
msg:4443612 | 12:56 am on Apr 21, 2012 (gmt 0) |
We are seeing wild fluctuations since Thursday night on our long tail keywords. Traffic off 25% today, Simply cannot see an discernible pattern. Just bizarre. We have made no changes this month other than freshening some content as we do each month. Has anybody seen a major flux starting Thursday night?
TIA,
Bill
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garyr_h
msg:4443615 | 1:16 am on Apr 21, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Bill_H, I've been seeing major flux all week. As I've stated before, it was almost as if they rolled back to 2 weeks ago and then restarted adding things back into the algorithm so there is a lot of movement and changes going on throughout the databases.
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BaseballGuy
msg:4443633 | 2:46 am on Apr 21, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Traffic down 50% from Thursday morning to Thursday night. All across the board. What in the hell are they doing to screw up the SERPS so bad?
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gyppo
msg:4443641 | 4:15 am on Apr 21, 2012 (gmt 0) |
I'm down 50% today from yesterday.
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