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Pandalized. Bored. No New Content For 12 Months - Do Subdomains Work?
LostOne




msg:4426005
 1:05 pm on Mar 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

How does one deal with this fear of Panda when it comes to the addition of new content? I am a firm believer overlapping content hit my site that started February 24, 2011. Changes were made over the last 12 months, but to no avail. Iíve mentioned in another thread of making major changes. Or hacking the site to 200 pages from itís current 400. I truly believe each page serves a good purpose or answers a query well without the fluff. Major consolidation would create pages that could be too long to keep user interest. Then I hear a 40 page site has been Pandalized! How on earth can that happen unless the subject area is very narrow? We all must know by now itís not about quality either.

The industry does change from time to time but not as quickly as others. Almost a snailís pace compared to letís say technology. The same older principles still rule and will probably continue for decades.

Iíve been keeping my eye on niche competition and one is creeping forward and deservedly so. Itís an industry magazine with 20,000 in print circulation. I applaud Google for bringing a true content site up in the SERPS instead of all that online etailer drivel. I donít mind the competition, but what bothers me is Iím stuck at what to do. Iíd like to be able to compete, but how? Subdomains?

If Iím correct on assuming overlapping content is the main root of Panda, itís just a matter of time the new competitor should be affected; maybe not. They report on industry techniques and products to which I have been invited to contribute in the past. Online for two years, some articles are used from publications 10 and 15 years old. As mentioned, industry techniques and products change or improve, but they donít remove the older articles when a new one appears. That to me is overlapping. According to the Google site command operator, their page count is 11,500.

Itís just a matter of time before I really get buried by good competition. Incidentally weíre only talking adding a few pages every month or so. I havenít heard much lately about subdomains, or maybe Iíve missed it. Is this helping any Pandalized sites?

 

danijelzi




msg:4426143
 6:54 pm on Mar 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

The same problem here, also Feb. '11 Panda and the problem was maybe overlapping content. I write about a topic where every new product has almost the same characteristics as previous gen. products or competitor products, but I had been putting all the info about a single product on a page about it, so it made overlapped content. I've deleted almost 1/2 of the site, removed url's of empty pages, added newer content with less overlapping as possible, changed the site design, etc but I'm still under panda. The site topic is pretty narrow, so i can't split it into subdomains.

So far, I don't see a solution for that.

danijelzi




msg:4426145
 6:59 pm on Mar 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

I've forgot to add. Every new post I publish gets re-worded and re-published by others who rank well with basically my content on their sites. Some of my competitors became very lazy. They simply wait for me to publish new content to take it. They do put often dofollow links to me as the source, but that doesn't help me. I feel like I work for others for free.

netmeg




msg:4426146
 7:00 pm on Mar 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

I don't think structure is going to help you here. You may need to rethink your content model.

tedster




msg:4426149
 7:05 pm on Mar 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

I recently helped really good site escape from Panda. They had the same problem danijelzi descibes - others were scraping/spinning their content and eventually Google seemed to lose track of who was the original. Panda really hates cross-domain dupe content ;)

We instituted author/publisher mark-up and start using PuSH to send Google fat pings whenever new content was published. We also cleaned up some coding issues, but I don't think that was what made the difference at all.

Now, their traffic is back near what it was, and their author head shots are being displayed in the SERPs.

ckissi




msg:4426155
 7:12 pm on Mar 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

@tedster Good... What type of "fat pings" do you mean ?

tedster




msg:4426166
 7:31 pm on Mar 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

PuSH allows for sending several kinds of pings. A fat ping sends the complete content rather than an extract of some kind.

danijelzi




msg:4426221
 10:00 pm on Mar 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

thanks tedster.

i have my head shot appearing in serps, but the posts get outranked as soon as others re-publish them. i do fetch pages in GWT right after i publish a post (about 1/2 minute later) and it appears in serps almost instantly or a couple of minutes later. i assume a page is in google's index then. do you think fat pings will help despite all the things i do after publishing a post?

i'll try these fat pings anyway. i just need to find out how to do that in wordpress.

Leosghost




msg:4426247
 11:41 pm on Mar 7, 2012 (gmt 0)

Search for "pubsubhubbub plugin wordpress..or go straight to this one ;)..
[wordpress.org...]

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