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Why do I rank so much better on other Google versions than .com?
zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 1:14 pm on Mar 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

I dont get it, in webmaster tools I have it to focus on USA, but still I rank several pages better when you search in countries I dont even know. Is there something like a USA ban or Panda US. Yes the server is located in the US and domain is .com

 

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 7:17 pm on Mar 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

Where are your backlinks from? ...that's another variable.

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 8:57 pm on Mar 3, 2012 (gmt 0)

mostly USA also, it has gotten worse since Panda I must also add.

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 7:05 am on Mar 4, 2012 (gmt 0)

Is the server physically located inside the U.S.?
Are you located in the U.S.? (asking because you call it "USA", a common foreign trait)
Was it any different when you didn't set GWT to focus on the U.S.?

louieramos



 
Msg#: 4424467 posted 7:24 am on Mar 4, 2012 (gmt 0)

I've seen this before too, one of my client couldn't get past Page 3 for cheap widgets keywords in Google USA, whilst they have ranked so well (page 1) on other Google for the same keywords, even got Top 3 on Bing and Yahoo. It could be some form of penalty

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 9:19 am on Mar 4, 2012 (gmt 0)

... or it could simply be your vocabulary. Every time I toss the word "hockey" into a linguistically themed page, I jump one spot higher in the Canadian results compared to the US.

This is a frivolous exaggeration, but the principle holds.

zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 11:45 am on Mar 4, 2012 (gmt 0)

server is located in the US, business not.
Also it got worse after Panda.
Louieramos - hmm yes the site is on page 3-4

louieramos



 
Msg#: 4424467 posted 12:14 pm on Mar 4, 2012 (gmt 0)

zeus, just out of curiosity, where does it rank on Bing USA for the same keywords?

zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 6:50 pm on Mar 4, 2012 (gmt 0)

never checked, but page 4, like google

zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 10:07 pm on Mar 16, 2012 (gmt 0)

Geographic target - just removed the target USA, see if that helps, you never no with google these days.

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 9:52 am on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

hmm still have the same problem, as said server, domain all in the us and site is in English, so why this HUGE difference we are talking page 1 to 20

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 10:37 am on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

I have one site that is page 1 on EVERY tld to page 65 on .com ... maybe some people have friends in the right places or, most likely, hahahaha, .com is totally fubard?

Look, I can't even get new pages in their index these days. Exclusive stuff I uploaded a couple of weeks or so ago Bing already has them at #1, that's just how unique they are, Google does not even recognise the spellings let alone the information.

Google is old news and the sooner everyone withdraws themselves from their crack the better.

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 10:48 am on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

I started a topic about this a month or so ago. Many people have noticed the same thing happening, so it's definitely not rare.

I chalk some of it up to testing. Some of the results I have been seeing on .com lately were basically taken from the other Gs.

I also think it has something to do with some sort of filter. Perhaps synonyms or something else.

So let me ask you this, are you well ranked in other English Googles or only non-English?

zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 11:26 am on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

only non English ranks good

HuskyPup



 
Msg#: 4424467 posted 11:31 am on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

Personally I rank well across all Googles, and also in many different languages, however .com has some very bizarre, and I will say manipulated, results.

There is absolutely no way without manipulation that I could otherwise rank #654 for keyword1keyword2 with a US spelling and #1 for an English spellling...ONE letter difference!

In all other Googles my US spelling is top 5, many at #1, yeah, that's life, some people have convenient friends.

danijelzi



 
Msg#: 4424467 posted 12:39 pm on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

I have the same problem, but I think that the point isn't in Google.com, but in English language selection. For example, if you search on Google.com with language preference Swedish, my site doesn't appear to be pandalized. More precisely, I'm pandalized only when English is selected (I use Adwords Preview Tool) and then I'm outranked by various spam/scraper sites. Changing site's preference to the US in GWT didn't solve the problem.

HuskyPup



 
Msg#: 4424467 posted 1:27 pm on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

If it's not manipulation then something is seriously broken and has to have been for some time.

For example my B&M company name is example, I own example.com/biz/info/eu/co.uk/asia/in/co.in/cn/ch/com.br/ru/tel/mobi and the highest I rank in Google.com for example is at #33 and Google.co.uk at #190 and the titlebar reads:

Example.com Example

That's all there is, the meta description is correct.

No need to ask who's #1 on Bing in front of Wikipedia is there?

garyr_h

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 1:46 pm on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

I don't think it can be Panda, because isn't Panda worldwide across all languages? I'm pretty sure it is synonyms or something along those lines.

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 1:50 pm on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

I am seeing this only for long-tail searching and my site.

zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 1:55 pm on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

the word I rank for is exactly the same in the rest of the world

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 2:05 pm on Apr 28, 2012 (gmt 0)

Make sure to use the US English spelling.

UK English is usually an indication you are not targeting North America. You may do well in UK, Europe, South Africa, etc

zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 2:45 pm on May 2, 2012 (gmt 0)

it has nothing to do with the "us" spelling thats 100%

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 4:55 pm on May 2, 2012 (gmt 0)

Could it be as simple as the fact that all the competition is stronger in the US serps than elsewhere?

zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 8:43 pm on May 2, 2012 (gmt 0)

hmm interesting, but I dont think so, I think its a panda thing, be cause the site is hurt by panda, but mostly us.

zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 8:42 am on May 15, 2012 (gmt 0)

[google.co.id...] on that google version, the rankings are much better, but why, maybe one could learn something here.

zeus

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 10:24 am on May 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

hmm is there a filter/ban where you dont rank good on google.com even if your site is a .com, server is in the USA and you also have on wmt usa as priority.

I rank great on .it , co.id.......

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Msg#: 4424467 posted 10:54 pm on May 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

I have the same problem, I rank better in India for prime keywords. Between early last year up until the time my google traffic started totally crashing (a couple of months ago or so). Traffic from the USA was was being replaced by Indian traffic (as a percentage), yet, my hosting is in the USA, my primary domain is a .com, all others (mostly .com's) are 301'ed to it I use WMT with a preferred setting as USA.

I suspect that there are many Indian SEO's with spammy sites linking to me. My backlink profile must consist largely of these links, The irony is that I often received many reciprocal links request from shoddy SEO's in India/Pakistan which I always ignored.

I have been thinking of blocking ip ranges from these regions for a some time. I know the results of my efforts can be easily circumvented and that this won't address the issue of the existing links adequately. However, it might help keep me out of sight to some extent and slow down the occurrences of new links.

JamesWt



 
Msg#: 4424467 posted 11:21 am on May 25, 2012 (gmt 0)

I think the target of the SEO can cause an alteration in the ranking.

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