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Google Updates and SERP Changes - Feb 2012
robdob



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 7:50 am on Feb 1, 2012 (gmt 0)

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Any help would be greatly appreciated, is it possible that this lastest update woull dump the SEO of my sites because I had link to them within the footer of one of my other sites? Also Google shown within its webmaster tools that there were some 2,000,000 + pages linked from the footer to my site.. is this a reason for google to penalize me? Any input wouldbe greatly appreciates..

I own all the sites involved...

Thanks

[edited by: tedster at 5:41 pm (utc) on Feb 1, 2012]

 

rowtc2

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 7:31 am on Feb 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

My traffic is 10% down from a few days. Was Panda refresh or algo update?

ohno



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 7:45 am on Feb 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

Pretty safe to say something happened for us yesterday. Sales on our one site shot up & our other site that hadn't had a single sale since last Sunday had two last night. Unlike previous updates where we sat tight this time we have done lots of changes, things like improving product images, meta descriptions, text on page & checking the fonts etc look OK in ALL browsers. Have also noticed a search term that is very popular for a new product just launched change, the Product Search one box results have gone up from the bottom of the page to just below no. 2 in the SERP's. Our product page is no. 1 & our forum page relating to the product is no. 2. The one box results were at this position, then moved to the bottom of the page & then disappeared completely. They've also updated the image we use at last(changed in the feed ages ago). OT, did anyone have issues with Google Chat yesterday? We were getting server 500 errors when trying to open the window from a chat back request.

[edited by: ohno at 8:28 am (utc) on Feb 17, 2012]

jmorgan

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 7:56 am on Feb 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

@rowtc me too guess it wasn't just valentines day :(

Martin Ice Web

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 8:49 am on Feb 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

@ohno,

we do have the same problem high traffic with good conversion change to high traffic with less to zero conversion to change to zombi traffic and that in cicles.
I think we do have the same issue with our websides.
If u like u can pm me and we have a look at each other sides, maybe we can find something similar? ( Located in Germany )

santapaws

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 10:54 am on Feb 17, 2012 (gmt 0)

im searching for travel sites and all im getting is news sites? (plus tripadvisor of course)

Web_speed



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 4:51 am on Feb 18, 2012 (gmt 0)

I'm searching for travel sites and all I'm getting is news sites? (plus tripadvisor of course)


Targeting is super Willi Nilly. Broad as broad can be.

I had a good example today of just how bad google search has become. I had a viewer searching for "metal widgets for suitcases" and google sending them to a page about "electronic widgets bistable ICs". The only thing these two topics have in common is the word "widgets", otherwise two completely unrelated topics.........FAIL!

Adwords ads spot on offcourse...

MikeNoLastName

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 9:59 am on Feb 18, 2012 (gmt 0)

Well, gotta admit 2/15-2/17 have literally been our best days in over 6 months. Been heavily pandalized since last Feb, 2011. Now back up to about 60% of Feb 2011. Rose 50% in the SERPS in one day on 2/14 (i.e. #100 -> #50).
I know no one believes me (since G can NOT possibly make mistakes. Duh-oh, check today's news for the "ADMITTED mistakes" they INSIST they made in the Safari cookie exploit issue) but things turned around as soon as my phantomed 301 redirects (search for my former posts about "301 redirect phantoms" on this website) started disappearing en-mass and our resultant duplication penalties are almost gone.
Just my 2-cents.

reseller

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 9:11 am on Feb 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

Hi Folks!

I think a Google algorithm update is underway on Feb 19, 2012. I guess some of you would feel the impact of the current update. Wish you good luck :-)

louieramos



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 9:28 am on Feb 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

I think you are right reseller, I am seeing 2 sets of search results in a lot of keywords we are working on. It has been like this for more than 24 hours now, ranking fluctuation. Can anyone else see the same pattern?

mslina2002

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 11:44 am on Feb 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

reseller, care to elaborate and be more specific why you think so?

wokka



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 12:27 pm on Feb 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

I'm definitely seeing a change in the results unless I've had a manual review or some sort of penalty.

But, we definitely haven't done any bad linking etc etc

My big keywords like 'ink cartridges' 'printer cartridges' 'printer ink' have all moved down around 10 places onto page 2 of google.co.uk

Still showing on page 1 for long tail keywords... and still got over 10,000 pages indexed.

Anyone else having anything like this happening to them?

falsepositive



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 3:52 pm on Feb 19, 2012 (gmt 0)

Definitely more changes: last week -- down 10% along with all those who reported this back then. Now up 20%. See-sawing. Overall, time on site down but conversions see-sawing also. I've come to expect and ignore these fluctuations as there's nothing ever stable anymore.

garyr_h

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 1:01 am on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

Yeah, seeing changes again. Visitors down (again). Seems like no changes I make are doing any good. Just been on a free fall since Feb. 2011 despite many positive changes (at least, what I consider positive changes).

Currently at about 25% the traffic from Feb. 2011.

I hope things improve. Seriously no idea what is going on. I could have sworn the changes over the past two weeks would be positive.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 7:48 am on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

Seeing huge movements here, one of our sites that used to page 1 that had disappeared is now back to page 1! Also had loads of foreign traffic Saturday.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 7:59 am on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

Infact looking more deeply I see sites that are really old (who I thought had gone out of business!) making a come back to page 1! Biggest movements I've seen in months, nervous!

wokka



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 8:15 am on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

For me, I'm thinking I've had some sort of penalty applied to the site.

It's as if they have looked through GA picked out all the keywords that bring the site traffic and pushed them onto page 2 or worse.

I've done all the tests for a penalty, but none come through as a positive.

If it's a major algorithm update, I'd have expected more people to be reporting big fluctuations in rankings.

Been making my living off this site for the last 8 years and seems like this is coming to an end soon.

Made a reinclusion request yesterday, but not holding my breath.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 8:40 am on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

wokka, exactly the situation we were in. Be careful with reinclusion requests as we did that once & could see human visits from Google all over the place. 2 weeks later we all but disappeared but then came back! (following another request).

suggy

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 9:59 am on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

wokka - this sounds like Pandalisation to me. Do you have lots of pages clustered around those keyphrases written for longer tail searches - ie silos of pages targeting pretty similar keyphrases (allowing for synonyms, brands, etc)?

HuskyPup



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 10:25 am on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

Slash and burn for me on Google.co.uk.

My .coms have taken a hammering at the hands of .co.uk sites, even trademarked, keyword, fact-filled domains, one has gone from first place to 165th overnight.

All still ranking well on Google.com, US version.

My opinion of UK geotargeting by Google engineers is now at an all-time low, it's about time they got out into the real world!

ohno



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 10:39 am on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

/\ Sure I read somewhere recently that they are associating .com with US searches. If so what's the point of the geo target setting?! In the early days lots of sites in the UK were .com.

HuskyPup



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 11:25 am on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

Well, I can only see if Matt Cutts et al are correct and there is no duplicate content penalty if I make a 100% copy of my example.com on example.co.uk

Seemingly I have no choice but to try it since my UK traffic this past 3-4 months on this specific site has fallen dramatically since end November.

The UK used to be #2 for this site however it is now #4 considerably a long way behind the US at #1, Canada at #2 and India at #3.

Any other suggestions?

chrisains



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 3:33 pm on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

I'm also seeing some large movements since 18th Feb across multiple, non-related, websites. On my own site, the drop in visibility initially looks like a penalty or link devaluation of sorts.

Performed multiple tests to identify penalty, nothing identified other than large scale content duplication caused by dodgy Chinese scrapers (mainly Chinese anyway!) but this is always an issue with my website (and others in my industry!) therefore I'm not convinced this is the reason for drop in visibility all of a sudden - although I am not ruling it out!

robert76

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 3:39 pm on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

No movements but very deep crawl in progress last 2 days. Last time a crawl was this deep was 11/19 Panda.

Lenny2



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 6:19 pm on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

no significant changes over here... USA Based .com site... Pandalized Feb. 2011 (1 Year Ago...)

danijelzi



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 9:28 pm on Feb 20, 2012 (gmt 0)

@Lenny2
no significant changes for Feb. 11 pandalized site...
I dont know how many times I read this. I've heard of and saw stats of sites pandalized in April recovered in summer or pandalized in summer recovered last fall, but I don't remember that anyone hit in February saw any kind of significant recovery to date. I've checked recently Alexa for varios tech sites. a lot of them hitted in Feb. with no recovery to date. Two of my sites not recovered since Feb. except a short period in end Oct. - first part of Nov. one with many changes, the other with no changes at all. i can now only hope we have some 1 year penalty expiring this month.

maximillianos

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 1:18 pm on Feb 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

I know of a few Feb 2011 panda'd sites that fully recovered late last year. Many don't talk about for obvious reasons.

epmaniac



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 1:49 pm on Feb 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

guys dont worry, the current drop is due to president day holiday

danijelzi



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 2:30 pm on Feb 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

@maximillianos

Have those recovered by changes on Pandalized domains or by moving content to subdomains? Thanks.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 4:40 pm on Feb 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Last night/this morning we saw the usual (bad!) pattern of traffic from India. Today we have been dead, yet again. Honestly I give up, it seems any form of stability with Google these days is gone. Long gone.

Bewenched

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 4:52 pm on Feb 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

@ohno, we're seeing that same bad traffic pattern today.

ohno



 
Msg#: 4413161 posted 5:03 pm on Feb 21, 2012 (gmt 0)

Unreal isn't it? I just don't know what is going on at Google. One day normal, the next awful. Hell we've even had a morning be great for it to disappear at lunch time! All you can do is sit it out(again!)........

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