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Google -50 Penalty can be really revoked?

Msg#: 4387986 posted 10:40 am on Nov 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

I'm wondering If -50 Google penalty can be really revoked. I had manual penalty applied to 3 of my sites and It has been 6 months and still are still penalized.

I've rewrote all content and created quality content which is not available elsewhere. Detailed real reviews, original videos created by me in each review, screen shots and lots of more genuine stuff which is not available elsewhere.

I'm going to put all the new stuff online within a week and then submit a reconsideration request.

I have VERY high hopes that my sites will resume back to top listing as now my sites are excellent, descriptive, original and actually what surfers are looking for. STILL, I'm afraid of google and thinking if guys doing reconsideration are whimsy.

Can you share your experience? Same -50 penalty was applied to one of my friend's site but doing a full overhaul and submitted reconsideration helped and now his site is back on the top. I'm hopeful but afraid as well.....



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Msg#: 4387986 posted 2:11 pm on Nov 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

It can take a long time. I had several sites that got the -50 penalty years ago. I know why they got it, so I made the changes, in some cases submitted reinclusion requests and waited.


Then after 2 years, one day they just popped back up on the radar.

So yes, you can recover but there is no set time frame for doing so. It can happen quickly or it can take years.


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Msg#: 4387986 posted 2:15 pm on Nov 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

Discussions here have highlighted a few different types of -50 penalties relating to a variety of factors. One has even acquired it's own acronym - BLOOP (Back Link Over Optimization Penalty) See [webmasterworld.com...] and here [webmasterworld.com...]

You need to give us a bit more detail on what you feel you did that got you to this point. Have you submitted a reconsideration request? There are several examples posted here as well as advice on how to word one.

Try searching with site:webmasterworld.com [keyword]


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Msg#: 4387986 posted 2:41 pm on Nov 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

There are so many different penalties and filters and almost all of them are recoverable. Some require you to fix the offending issue and others have a fixed time period that you need to wait to expire.

From my personal experience few people do not even know which penalty or filter is impacting their site. Some websites that think they have lost rankings due to a penalty just have issues with their SEO. You may have just lost backlinks or another division in your company launched a duplicate site. Just be careful not to make assumptions and to properly research your situation. Is it a penalty, filter, seo issue or a combination?


Msg#: 4387986 posted 3:48 pm on Nov 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

@mrguy, what was the reason behind the penalty? Did you get any reply to your re-inclusion request?

@Hoople From the two threads you quoted, later one is started by me. My 3 sites were penalized and re-consideration requests were denied saying that some pages still violate quality guidelines.

Recently google is sending clear notification and the guys who have got penalty due to backlinks are getting notification that "unnatural links pointing to your site".... This is not the case with me. I get notification that "some or all pages still violate quality guidelines". I believe this penalty is related to content.


It is a confirmed manual penalty. Reconsideration request response was "some pages still violate quality guidelines".

I believe content is the cause in my case. My content was not duplicate but over the time lots of sites copied it. I'm working on rewriting everything and improving things a lot! Just afraid of mysterious google!


Msg#: 4387986 posted 4:11 pm on Nov 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

I think I am in the same boat as well. My site (created in 1999) ranked well for 10 years. Never any issues. Original content, all written by me - and then in mid April it tanked. I thought maybe a 60 day penalty, then 90 penalty. Nope. I made the HUGE mistake of hiring a backlink service thinking I "needed" to do this to keep my site rankings "safe". This is something I really had never heard of or ventured into. But my thinking was...."Oh I have to do this to run with the BIG dogs..."
Jesus.... I should have just mozied along as I had for 10 years just writing quality content and doing my own little thing. Sometimes I think SEO is BS. I never did SEO and for 10 years I was fine. The first time I do something that all the SEO people are saying you need to do.... well... you know the end of this story.


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Msg#: 4387986 posted 7:30 pm on Nov 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

What i don't understand is how JC Penny had their penalty lifted in 90 days, while the violations of google's terms of service were pretty much about as bad as could have been.

As for creating NEW content, I don't think that will help in regards to removing a penalty. the only thing to do is to get rid of the things that were violating the terms of service (whether they are backlinks, scraped content, harmful content (i.e., malware)), etc...


Msg#: 4387986 posted 7:43 pm on Nov 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

I've tried new content - it's not helping. I've tried removing boilerplate content, beefing up pages, reducing bounce rate by 12%, noindexing pages with little content -like image only pages, completely deleting sections of my site that I thought were worthless (in light of Panda), I'm doing the whole social media thing (stupid). I'm doing all the GOOD LITTLE GIRL things I should be doing and have done in the past to make Google love me. It's not doing a damn thing.
So - if my penalty is a BLOOP penalty because I hired a company that made thousands of crappy backlinks to my site - how do you remove thousands of backlinks? Do we now have to hire an SEO person to tackle that? ::rolls eyes::


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Msg#: 4387986 posted 9:44 pm on Nov 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

Frost_Angel first of all I am sorry this has happened to you:Frost_Angel a good SEO professional don't or won't ever say the only way to rank is by getting links. If they do run don't walk. I am afraid you were wearing racing wings when you went into this. Racing wings keep horses from looking around just straight ahead. You made a poor decision hired a poor company so please don't think all SEO companies work that way. Rolling my eyes back at ya :)

A few questions for you.
1- Did you allow access to the site FTP etc to this SEO company?
2- Getting links from a bunch of poor sites should not cause this issue.
3- It sounds like the company did more than links. I would do a search through the site for hidden problems your not aware of, sounds like there is more to this than links.
4- Yes if you can't find the issue find another SEO firm or post here and we would be more than happy to help you find the issue.
5- I was under this took about a year to come out, but like I said I would make sure there isn't something else not seen yet that might be the issue.
6- It's free from some of the best most honorable SEO's in the world.
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