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Google Video listing delay... and best markup?
badbadmonkey




msg:4370489
 8:01 am on Oct 4, 2011 (gmt 0)

I added a new page to a site a few days ago. The article was indexed by Google within hours.

There is a video included within (hosted on the same server). The same video was also uploaded to YouTube (after the article was released and indexed).

The YouTube video was also showing in Google Video searches within hours.

However the hosted version of the video remains absent. This is the first video on the site and a site:site.com search under Google Video returns no results.

Is this delay normal, or should I be looking at a problem with the video embedding?

The video is JWPlayer based around <video> tags, and marked up with the new Schema.org tags, like this:


<div itemprop="video" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/VideoObject">
<meta itemprop="name" content="Title" />
<meta itemprop="description" content="Description" />
<meta itemprop="duration" content="T1M23S" />
<meta itemprop="thumbnail" content="/poster.jpg" />

<video src="/video.mp4"
width="640" height="480"
id="container" controls="controls"
poster="/poster.jpg"
>
</video>
<script jwplayer etc>
</div>

 

tedster




msg:4370796
 10:58 pm on Oct 4, 2011 (gmt 0)

Video indexing is most definitely a different process - so are other vertical areas. Video is not nearly so quick to index, in my experience, as text content.

badbadmonkey




msg:4373602
 12:56 pm on Oct 12, 2011 (gmt 0)

It's still not indexed. I'm wondering if
1) The Schema.org mark-up is a) correct and b) actually used by Google, as the documentation is horrible and incomplete, and
2) Google actually recognize <video> tags, as all their documentation seems to be outdated and constantly refers to SWFs and FLVs.

What is the experience out there with getting videos indexed?

Alex_TJ




msg:4375252
 11:27 pm on Oct 16, 2011 (gmt 0)

I'm also interested, anyone?

tedster




msg:4375257
 11:45 pm on Oct 16, 2011 (gmt 0)

My experience is that once a YouTube version is ranking, then a locally hosted version of the same video is a kind of duplicate content and will have lots of trouble.

If you don't want to just embed the YouTube version on your own domain's page, then I would not upload to YouTube until your local version is indexed. But you're better off most of the time, to make sure the YouTube vdieo's page or channel helps people find your website - essentially use Google's YouTube property as a part of your extended web marketing.

Joshmc




msg:4375526
 5:23 pm on Oct 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

I would agree with this as well, I have never been able to beat a youtube video that I uploaded first with the same video locally hosted on my site. Tedster recommendation on this is the way I would handle it as well.

badbadmonkey




msg:4375656
 11:52 pm on Oct 17, 2011 (gmt 0)

Ya ok but other than meta data and the length, Google can't be too sure about whether it's duplicate content eh.

Does anyone have experience with MP4 files, the <video> tag, and Schema.org?

tutu




msg:4375834
 8:46 am on Oct 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

the youtube has high weight,hh

tedster




msg:4376135
 7:26 pm on Oct 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

other than meta data and the length, Google can't be too sure about whether it's duplicate content eh.

There's a lot more technology at YouTube than you may realize - including an automated system to detect copyright violation.

No, they may not be 100% certain that the video is a dupe in every case... but if the file contains exactly the same video and audio, I'm pretty sure they can.

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