The big change took place late night 13th Oct - Starting 14th Oct till 7 AM EDT.
Currently the results are a complete mess and does not make sense to me.
If this is going to continue like this then we can't put any hope in Google, basically everyone is getting hit by panda, good-bad-ugly.
always amusing to see / hear how a vocal minority on a forum, becomes.. "everyone"
last time membership numbers were mentioned here, I think WebmasterWorld had around half a million members ..at maximum around a hundred ( and the same "hardcore" of a few dozen or so ) have been posting since last February about how "everyone" is hit by Panda..
saying "everyone" is suffering .. in every thread ..does not make it so..
[edited by: Leosghost at 1:38 pm (utc) on Oct 14, 2011]
|...basically everyone is getting hit by panda, good-bad-ugly. |
Everyone? Obviously, some sites are winning and sliding up into SERP slots previously held by the sites that were hit. Yin and yang.
saw 2 sites take a hit the 13th/14th. Panda should be renamed to some monster that eats little children and protects corporate america.
Big SERP change definitely, I've got mixed ranking results with all my clients. I've also noticed a lot of honeymooner sites have dropped.
"always amusing to see / hear how a vocal minority on a forum, becomes.. "everybody" "
Agreed. Not helpful.
I don't understand why people are posting in this thread if they have written Google off, or decided that they don't need Google traffic, or that they'll concentrate on Bing because they don't like what Google is doing etc etc.
Why fill the thread with noise?
I saw a change in our positions that happened overnight, sometime between between 11pm GMT on 12th Oct and 9am GMT on 13th Oct. I saw no additional change in our positions overnight between 13th and 14th Oct.
Was this UK specific or global? What dates did others see the latest significant shuffle? So far we've only gone a couple of days in a row without seeing at least a little flux in our results since the 2.5 day at the end of Sept, but this change between 12th and 13th of this month was the biggest so far.
Also, for our key terms, variation between Google.com and Google UK is the most marked I've seen in ages.
We are a UK regional business. We do not target any non UK audience, hence my focus on UK SERPs.
We noticed mostly downward change on the night of 13th.
Our site is UK focused.
Several position 1's have now dropped to position 11.
stating the obvious, serps are a zero sum game. the great majority of WebmasterWorld members manage/own/consult to small and medium websites. no question, since march, the serps have become more dominated by large powerful sites with massive backlink profiles. so, sometimes it seems like everyone.
Is it not a case of Google has written off many people posting on this thread?
|I don't understand why people are posting in this thread if they have written Google off, |
I have had losses and gains, probably more losses than gains. Deciding that we don't need Google traffic is wrong, but I took the first step of being Google free by switching the families computer at home to Bing as the default search engine.
I have a few old, unimportant sites which are, frankly, rubbish but paying their way nevertheless. They have been hammered.
I have some excellent, well focussed sites. Most of these have stayed the same or gone up.
I have some small, in-between sites, some have gone up, some have gone down.
Just another Google update.
I have noticed a rebound on some previously destroyed ecommerce sites.
On the reverse, blogs with expert long articles and only adsense (or any other advertising mechanism even direct) are the only victims.
I haven't seen an ecommerce related site or a site with direct sales from the site take a hit since panda 2.0. On the contrary, they have improved with each iteration.
|become more dominated by large powerful sites with massive backlink profiles |
I don't think it is because they are large and powerful with massive backlink profiles, those things are just a co-incidence.
They are also semantically rich but focused and benefit from being strong in the broad semantic topic area. If the brand is a synonym or semantically close to the search term then they are given a further boost.
I agree with gford,
ecommerce sites seem to have got a big boost. Hardly any blogs, news or price comparison sites showing up for main category level searches in my niche.
No ideal wy it have to be so complicate to rank in search, the only reason i see is that it actually benefit someone some were and its not me....
My three year old hobby site that got hit by Panda and then recovered last month after I made zero changes (thread about that on this site somewhere) is now getting more traffic than my serious business site that's been online since 1996 and was getting 5X the hobby site traffic before Panda.
So I'm going to find a back-up from last winter and just set the business site clock back around 10 months, maybe that's Google's idea of "quality." BTW, no advertising on either site, (business site has low-key direct sales of our widgets) they share the same Anaytics and Webmaster account.
Go Google quarterly profits! What a racket.
This thread was intended to focus on the September 27 Panda iteration. Since seeks have now passed, we're talking about other SERP changes now and it's time to close this thread.
As always, we have a monthly SERP Changes thread for the ongoing ranking changes at Google. Let's take further discussion there:
Google Updates and SERP Changes - October 2011 [webmasterworld.com]