| 6:33 pm on Sep 15, 2011 (gmt 0)|
indyrank - Thanks for the post. Google is clearly walking a tightrope in this situation, but they apparently do understand the webmaster's problem....
From the Google Webmaster Central Blog post...
|Now, if your site is affected by a manual spam action, we may let you know if we were able to revoke that manual action based on your reconsideration request. Or, we could tell you if your site is still in violation of our guidelines.... |
If your site is not actually affected by any manual action (this is the most common scenario), we may let you know that as well....
...However, we have to maintain a delicate balance: trying to give as much information to webmasters as we can without letting spammers probe how to do more harm to users....
| 12:10 pm on Sep 15, 2011 (gmt 0)|
System: The following 5 messages were spliced on to this thread from: http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/4362821.htm [webmasterworld.com] by tedster - 2:56 pm on Sep 15, 2011 (EDT -4)
Reconsideration Requests Team Has a Sherlock Moment
Reconsideration Requests Get More Transparent [googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com]
|A couple of years ago, in addition to confirming that we had received the request, we started sending a second message to webmasters confirming that we had processed their request. This was a huge step for webmasters who were anxiously awaiting results. Since then, we’ve received feedback that webmasters wanted to know the outcome of their requests. [my bold] |
No $%!~ Sherlock. It took 2 years of data to work that one out? ;)
[edited by: tedster at 6:55 pm (utc) on Sep 15, 2011]
| 1:27 pm on Sep 15, 2011 (gmt 0)|
I must be missing something, here. Why this blog post now? It was just published September 15, but it's all about the changes in notification messages that are old news in my mind. Maybe it coincides with the new flood of "doorway page" messages [webmasterworld.com] and there are other new refinements to their messaging that we haven't noticed here so far.
I'll say this - for all the frustrations involved in both WebmasterTools and the Reconsideration Request process, I'm happy that Google invested resources in this area. It's miles beyond anything any search engine ever did before to communicate with webmasters
| 2:00 pm on Sep 15, 2011 (gmt 0)|
Simple, really. Google is on damage control mode, their ship is taking water and as long as it doesn't affect their bottom line they'll do what it can to stop the bad press. Complain about a set of SERPs on certain techie sites and it will be fixed by afternoon, the damage control team at Google is listening. If you are a nobody in social media, screw you.
|"I must be missing something, here. Why this blog post now?" |
See, if people complain about them being unfair and non-transparent voices will grow for regulation. So this is Google saying that they are fair and can handle (in a fair manner) being the almost lone gateway to the internet.
Even Philip Morris and other tobacco companies beat you on transparency. Nice try.
|We're happy that Google has set the standard on tools, transparency, and communication with site owners, but we'll keep looking for ways to do even better. |
| 2:59 pm on Sep 15, 2011 (gmt 0)|
|I'll say this - for all the frustrations involved in both WebmasterTools and the Reconsideration Request process, I'm happy that Google invested resources in this area. It's miles beyond anything any search engine ever did before to communicate with webmasters |
Ten or 12 years ago a site of mine was blocked by Yahoo!. I emailed them to ask why, and I got a reply two days later from a real human being citing "massive interlinking". I didn't care, there were plenty of other search engines then.
| 5:59 pm on Sep 15, 2011 (gmt 0)|
So if I understand, since september 2011 if Google makes a manual penalization sends you a message?,
and also if you request a reconsideration and your site still violates the guidelines they told that?
| 8:02 pm on Sep 15, 2011 (gmt 0)|
Martin, that's what happens some of the time, but not all of the time. If Google's historical data indicates that the a site is trying to exploit or spam, then they may not send any message at all.
| 8:55 pm on Sep 15, 2011 (gmt 0)|
I guess everyone uses Google Webmaster Tools then right? You kinda have to in order to get a notification of this sort, but I don't know, I just cannot force myself into using GWT again.
Google once said... "Build your website as if we didn't exist" and I think I will just stock to that plan.
Kudos to them for opening another channel of discussion though, going to their open support forum of volunteers is like standing before a firing squad...