A ban will not return any results for a 'site:' query. A -50 penalty is something completely different. So what is it in your case?
Google may indeed be targeting just what you say. In retrospect in the past many of what might be called MFA farms did operate multiple interlinking sites that boosted their own rankings. Most eventually seemed to be penalized by Google and vanished in my areas. The only tracing needed is through the Adsense account. Maybe Google is applying Panda to that or some type of clean-up is going on. I would think it was done manually though.
The sites are not found in google index at all, they are completely removed. Even using the site: command returns no results from the domains and searching for the whole domain url returns no results.
Also I have about another 50 websites which do not have adsense on them and are linked together in similar fashions and NONE of them have been penalized.
I had a similar thing happen. All my adsense sites banned earlier this year. Most were good quality, (IMO at least). Some were only several pages, in the beginning stages. But they all had original content.
I did little to no interlinking, BTW.
A friend of mine suffered from a very similar thing with a network of connected adsense websites. I suspect it was a manual thing, I think it was about 40 sites...
@twentyOne - Would you consider your sites to be MFA then, or were they built with a real purpose?
I have around 15 sites all different topics with genuine content sharing an adsense account, but they are not designed to generate any real revenue from adsense - anything coming from there is a bonus. Should I be concerned as well?
Well all the sites were hand written. No scraper.
However most of them were built to make money off adsense. I did buy several of the websites when they were already top 5 google results. Some of the websites have had millions of visitors and are banned. I am going to start removing adsense from most of the domains.
|I am going to start removing adsense from most of the domains. |
the people who suggest that one remove adsense are giving a suggestion for overcoming a Panda demotion / penalty. Remember that sites that have been Pandalized still appear in the index.
If you are NOT listed in the index (i.e., you can't find your site at all doing a site: query / domain name search), then whatever you got AIN'T Pandacitis.
Are you guessing that once you remove Adsense they will be "delinked" and google will forget that you own all the sites?
I am just going to suggest that before you start removing adsense, maybe there is something else that needs to be addressed. What is your backlink profile like? Maybe someone is google bowling you? Maybe you are linking one or two sites out to some bad domains, and that is affecting your network?
I read an article that I cant link to because I'm a new username here that said the exact same thing happened to the guy. In the comments was another person who the exact same thing happened to and after he removed all the adsense his rankings in google came back.
So I want to see what they will do, if the rankings come back maybe I'll try only 1/4th as much ads or just ads on the main page and see if the penalty comes back. Most of the sites are making such small amounts now with 0 google traffic that its worth a try.
I'm going to start looking around for ways to make money on websites without adsense and starting building new sites so that I'm less dependant on adsense.
|In the comments was another person who the exact same thing happened to and after he removed all the adsense his rankings in google came back. |
Not to beat a dead horse, but are you SURE it was the EXACT same thing? That their sites were DEINDEXED from google? Not just lower rankings / significant drop in traffic, but removed from the google index?
Because as far as we know, there is a BIG difference between having your rankings / traffic tank, and being kicked out of the index.
Also, even if you do find a way to monetize your site without being dependent on Adsense, how will you be getting traffic to your site?
I am not trying to be a bummer here. I just encourage you to really take a good look at your sites and see if there is something else that is causing you to be deindexed.
In fact, I would encourage you to go to the google Webmaster tools forums and list a couple of your sites there and ask why you were deindexed. You will get some haters that will tell you that it is XYZ, and what they tell you may or may not have any bearing on reality. But you will probably get at least one person there who will look at your site and offer some good advice.
You might even get a google employee to look at your site and give you advice.
Hope this helps.
Thank you. I'm going to look at the sites more and see if there are problems.
Thanks for your help!
[edited by: tedster at 8:57 pm (utc) on Aug 29, 2011]
All domains are still banned including a few domains that I took adsense completely off about a week ago.
You may want to try going all out improving one of those sites a lot. Then submit a reinclusion request. If that one site is good enough on its own, you can repeat the process on the other sites. Provide enough quality content and features that google will want to rank you well.
I am currently trying to do this for my network of 12 websites that all got penalized together.
please let me know how your results go in this thread. Thanks!
First thing I would do would be to remove ALL the cross linking you have going on. All of it. Just because it was tolerated years ago doesn't mean it is now.