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Will our sites gain in the SERPs if we use separate hosting?
seoranker




msg:4353215
 7:30 pm on Aug 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

I took control over 130 sites that are currently hosted under a shared godaddy plan and all link with good link titles to my primary domain. We are not getting the full value of the links since they all share the same root.

2 questions:

1. If we change them now and distribute to random hosting accounts on various providers, will google view them as independent, or are they tainted since they were originally part of one ip?

2. Is there any comparable solution than signing up for many different shared hosting accounts at different providers? We have looked into multiple c-classes but my research found that it doesn't help because google knows that the block is owned by one company.

Any suggestions are appreciated!

 

goodroi




msg:4353240
 8:28 pm on Aug 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

Google can figure out your websites are connected by other methods like looking at the domain registration info or if your sites use Google Adsense or Analytics. Depending on how paranoid you are you might even want to think about google using data from Google toolbar and the Chrome browser to identify site networks.

I don't know your situation and your specific details for that would impact Google ranking algo which looks at many many different signals but I doubt separating the hosting would significantly help the rankings. Also from a practical point of view it is hard to find 130 reliable hosting companies that are truly separate. Many hosting companies are actually resellers offering the same hosting on the same c class ip address.

I suggest you prioritize the top sites in your group of 130 sites. Then set them up on different hosting accounts and also do so quality link building, content generation and social marketing for the handful of priority sites.

HuskyPup




msg:4353255
 8:48 pm on Aug 18, 2011 (gmt 0)

Welcome to WebmasterWorld seoranker

Surely the 130 sites are not duplicates or ostensibly the same?

However if they are all with different subjects and with unique and genuine content I can't ascertain how you would know you are not getting "full value of the links"?

Remember that links value only supposedly passes between related sites and not just generic sites therefore if all your sites are different but linked there may not actually be any juice to pass on.

Well, that's my understanding of it:-)

seoranker




msg:4353458
 2:02 pm on Aug 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your replies. We are a company that has a network of independent doctors who discount services for our members that have little or no insurance. We offer to build a custom website for each of our participating doctors's practices. Right now all those sites are on one godaddy account but each site has it's own content. Are you guys saying that google doesn't care that they are all on one hosting account and that we shouldn't be concerned with that, or do you suggest we make changes to the structure?

Hoople




msg:4353462
 2:07 pm on Aug 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

With that many sites you should be on multiple Vitual Private Servers.

Split them between two servers for redundancy.

netmeg




msg:4353464
 2:14 pm on Aug 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

Nobody can definitively answer your question, there are too many unknown variables. I have situations where there are 50+ somewhat similar sites sitting on shared hosting with no problems at all. Others may not. In my opinion that's likely to be a *very* small factor. Hosting definitely matters, for things like reliability, site speed, and in some cases, bad neighborhoods. But there are a ton of things I'd look at to improve traffic before I'd worry about whether or not Google knew that a bunch of my sites were in the same hosting account. That seems pretty low priority to me.

smithaa02




msg:4353478
 3:18 pm on Aug 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

I've read speculation that changing your c-class can hurt...

Kind of like how link churn hurts and how domain age is widely regarded as a sign of quality, the theory goes google respects websites that have been on the same IP for a while...true or not, I don't know but I have had sites drop in SERPs after I moved them to another C-class for SEO reasons. I absolutely can't say there is a positive correlation though.

dhaliwal




msg:4353489
 3:55 pm on Aug 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

i would suggest putting them on around 10 different accounts. there are many reliable hosting companies, offering good hosting services.

running them on just one account at Godaddy will not offer much of benefit.

HuskyPup




msg:4353497
 4:36 pm on Aug 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

We are a company that has a network of independent doctors who discount services for our members that have little or no insurance.


I'm assuming not a massive volume of traffic since it's more at need searches?

I would find a decent reseller hosting account.

Are all these sites in one city/county/state? If so is there any reason why you could not create one core site showing the area you cover and then all the individual satellite sites could be linked to the core? This should give you a very nice network of independent but genuine associated sites and a nice rankings boost.

I appreciate that this may not be practical if the doctors actually compete with each other.

bwnbwn




msg:4353541
 5:49 pm on Aug 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

We have several hundred sites one the same server sharing the same IP. No problem ranking. I don't interlink for PR poop, I don't interlink for SE poop. I do interlink some sites for sending visitors to the linked site for 1- more information related to the topic, 2 provide more detailed information related to the nitch. I never ever link to one of our sites for the specific purpose of SE's.

How much traffic are the sites getting, are you doing all you can to build each site up. Are the doctors helping with tweets, FB groups, content, or is all the work on you.

Impossible to be a lone ranger and manage 130 sites in a tough nitch and expect them to rank for sounds like to me related terms.

Only way to do it is have the doctors take over the domains move the sites all over the country, work them with content, Tweets, FB. good articles, build revelant links from around the world, let them sit for I would say a year without any interlinking. Then you might be safe to try this, but that isn't an absolute.

smithaa02




msg:4353576
 7:32 pm on Aug 19, 2011 (gmt 0)

For 130 sites you might justify a dedicated server which might be nice to keep things under one roof. There are dedicated hosting plans out there that offer multiple c-classes (they're rare because the hosting company has to own large IP blocks but they do exist).

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