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The other side of Panda - the winners
whatson




msg:4321792
 11:18 pm on Jun 3, 2011 (gmt 0)

All we seem to hear about Panda is the losers complaining about how much traffic they have lost and what they are doing to try and get it back... with little success by the sounds of it.

So how about we hear from the other side, webmasters that were not [negatively] affected by the Panda update, and what it is that separates their sites from the losers. Let's hear some success stories of the winners.

 

tedster




msg:4322269
 6:58 pm on Jun 5, 2011 (gmt 0)

How many winners EVER bother to crow about their good fortune in the SERPs. I'd guess Panda rewarded many sites whose web teams never bother very much with "SEO" (very deliberately in quotes).

Those boosts came with Panda 2, and did not have major impacts like +80% or even +40%. I noticed for some sites, coincident with Panda 1, that targeting seemed a lot better for some sites I work with - especially well-known brands. Generic search terms with no brand signal involved started getting better rankings. Not a real surprise to most who are following the details, I assume.

zeus




msg:4322274
 7:18 pm on Jun 5, 2011 (gmt 0)

I got 3 sites in the same category 2 is hardly hit but also dont get that many visits, about 5000 a day, the other my big one has lost 60-70% of visits, now the point is, which could also be interesting, is all 3 have the same system how the site is build up, so i will watch this closely.

points i watch:
big site has not just adsense on it.
I have added a new version of the site, but kept the old online also be cause of many visits.
New version has zero ads on it.

mslina2002




msg:4322290
 8:12 pm on Jun 5, 2011 (gmt 0)

I did a quick peek.

Are the Sistrix Winners still winners?

Roughly looking at the Top Ten of the WINNERS Panda 1 list, 2 out of top 10 have gotten hit by Panda2/3. The others have increased and holding strong. Further down the list, are more sites that have gotten hit by Panda 2/3 or perhaps other issues. The top 10 seem to be a mix of ecommerce, content and affiliate sites.

Looking at the Top Ten LOOSERS Panda 1 list, all 10 are still struggling and traffic is still down. I am looking at quantcast data. Interesting to note that the top 10 are all content type sites - among them as we know ezinearticles, associatedcontent, mahalo, buzzle.

Would be interesting to see updated sistrix data of these winners and loosers list 4 months later... hint hint.

fringedgentian




msg:4322488
 2:38 pm on Jun 6, 2011 (gmt 0)

The site I webmaster for experienced gains with panda, I would say around 15-20%.

We are one of a small handful of legitimate sites in a niche that is packed full of affiliate and other spam sites. I believe we did not do anything to benefit, but our competition was greatly affected because they are almost all very thin pages & content and so we benefited because they went down.

It was nice to see after years of getting pushed down by sites that offered nothing to visitors. However the competition is now forced to invest a bit more in making actually useful sites, and with the $$ they can invest in SEO I think we might be in trouble when they come back...

Planet13




msg:4322495
 2:58 pm on Jun 6, 2011 (gmt 0)

However the competition is now forced to invest a bit more in making actually useful sites, and with the $$ they can invest in SEO I think we might be in trouble when they come back...


In the meantime, could you not yourself invest more in SEO so that you will stay at the top when they do come back?

fringedgentian




msg:4322502
 3:14 pm on Jun 6, 2011 (gmt 0)

> In the meantime, could you not yourself invest more in SEO so that you will stay at the top when they do come back?

I think my boss has been searching for someone for quite some time. But even if that happens, these competitors are like 10 or even 50 times our size, so they already have a team of SEO. It is going to be difficult for us to compete once they get decent content also even if we do get some good SEO help.

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