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Google PANDA rolls out WorldWide
incrediBILL

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 4:31 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Today, for the first time, after checking daily, I can now see US Panda results on Google properties worldwide including but not limited to: .co.uk, .ca, .co.in, .com.au, .fr, .de, .se, etc.

Congratulations, it's no longer speculation if you have Panda, it's quite visibly there.

 

MoneyHoney



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:14 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

@crobb305 Maybe you are talking about "non-spanish" search..

Frank_Rizzo

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:17 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Is your observation for US serps or Europe?


I see this with UK.

How can it be useful for users if searching for "widget stats" returns not a well established front page, not just a message board posting, but a message board forum section!

"widget stats"

View forum - Widget Stats
27 Dec 2010 ... Learn basic widget stats such as abc and xyz.
Next view more useful stats such as def and qrs stats ...
mysite / forum / viewforum.php?f=27 - Cached - Filter

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:19 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

@crobb305 Maybe you are talking about "non-spanish" search..


Of course I am. I am looking at Google.es, and Google.fr, searching in English and comparing to Google in U.S.

[edited by: crobb305 at 6:20 pm (utc) on Apr 11, 2011]

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:20 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

In my stats I'm seeing that something drastic occured on 4/6/2011.... MASSIVE drop in referrals, but the next day it went back to panda normal traffic (not pre-panda).

MoneyHoney



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:23 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Of course I am. I am looking at Google.es, and Google.fr, searching in English and comparing to Google in U.S.

Ok Ok.. I was talking about a spanish search on google.es, a french search on google.fr and so on.. The impact is so different..

jinxed

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:25 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Results are still jumping about on the co.uk

nethead



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:26 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Not sure if its Panda but on couple of our sites (keyword names) i.e. bluewidgets.com dropped for main keyword"blue widgets" in google.com after many years of being in the top 2. Now we are 4th and the other site 5th. Hopefully its a glitch and things change for the better. This has happened to 2 sites of ours but the rest is untouched and normal as last Monday.

zoltan

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:27 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Just checked my referals... I see a visitor coming from page 20 of a google search! I never see a referal from page 20. So, how quality could have been the first 190 results? (I do not claim my site was the end destination of searcher...)

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:27 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I was talking about a spanish search on google.es, a french search on google.fr and so on.. The impact is so different..

Oh I see. Yeah, those would be different as expected. But what I am suggesting is...suppose Panda just got unleashed last night to France, Spain, et al., the rankings would reflect the algorithm's assessment of the site at the time of deployment (or last data collection, probably within the last 72 hours). So if someone like me observes their site ranking well on Panda in Spain, France, etc, it MIGHT indicate how the site will rank when a re-ranking occurs in the U.S. It makes sense because a borderline site that has cleaned up over the past 6 weeks would be expected to rank well on Panda -- this could be the indicator.

OldIrish



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:37 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Holy cow! I've been a webmaster for 12 years and I have never seen anything this brutal before, not even close. From the looks of it I appear to be losing just about every ranking that I held for the last 6 years. I've mostly failed at diversifying my traffic stream away from Google, and this will quite likely put me out of business.

Sad times...

frank72



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:43 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

My site traffic has been cut in a half. My business has gone in a matter of 30 min.
Goodbye Internet....

conroy

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:45 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Yep, just lost 2 12 year old content sites, stable for forever. Don't worry, ehow and livestrong have those spots now.

alecs

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:46 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I see the global results being the same as the ones in the US now. Last time I checked the global serps (a few hours ago) I was on position 44 for 'blue widget'(my nieche is very competitive), now I went through page 1 to 66 and I'm nowhere to be found. Thanks google...I see 'quality' flowing on top now.

jeyKay

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:46 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Am I the only one here who seems to be seeing an INCREASE in traffic/rankings?

The white hat and hard work is paying off finally! *knocks on wood*

supercyberbob



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:49 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Google's rolling out a broken algo globally? How grand.

Pip pip, tea and crumpets, Mary Poppins, etc.

[edited by: supercyberbob at 6:51 pm (utc) on Apr 11, 2011]

rlange



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:51 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

kd454 wrote:
welcome to Panda Hell...

How about "The Pandacalypse"? :o)

--
Ryan

[edited by: rlange at 6:56 pm (utc) on Apr 11, 2011]

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:51 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Yep, rest of the world looks like the US now for me. What little traffic remained is now gone, gone, gone. World...welcome to Panda.

lty83

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:53 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

LMAO

one of my best sites lost #1 rank...

My Site:
1. Tons of Free, PRO content from EXPERTS in the industry
2. Over 4,000 REAL facebook fans, lots of comments
3. New content put up every other day

The New #1 Site:
1. 1 single long ass ebook sales page


Good job google, good job....

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:53 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

OldIrish and conroy, I'm in the same boat. Over the past 6 weeks I've laid off all 5 employees, stopped paying for my kid's college and my wife went to work outside of our business. With the drop in traffic I'm seeing in the past few hours, I'll be finding another job too. This is terrible.

OldIrish



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:56 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I just don't get it. They claimed this update was to hit "spammy" sites and content farms, yet I lost all of my rankings to content farms and spammy AdSense driven black hat sites.

crobb305

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 6:59 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I'd like to know if other webmasters who were slammed by Panda-U.S. are seeing an improvement in rankings on international Panda?

I see my rankings nearly 100% restored on international; and it is definitely Panda, based on the pages I see ranking around me.

frank72



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:04 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

@crobb305: no, the panda-U.S. didnt hit me that hard. This last update which was rolled out 3-3 hours ago hit me super-hard. All my keywords are gone. They are nowhere to be seen...

crobb305

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:07 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

frank, are you talking about your keywords when searching in U.S., or international?

OldIrish



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:07 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I should mention that many of my sites have exact match keyword domains (.com). I have roughly $200K total invested in domains that now appear to have no leveraging power in Google.

So you can have the best content in your niche by far. You can have the most content in your niche. You can even have the exact keyword domain for your specific niche (a $30K investment). At the end of the day however your 1,000 page niche specific website is going to be outranked by a two paragraph Wikipedia article on the subject and some extremely spammy About dot com article.

[edited by: OldIrish at 7:29 pm (utc) on Apr 11, 2011]

c41lum

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:08 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Same here 10 year old site over 13 employees, we have dropped HUGE. We were working on clearing all of our 'low content' pages out (returning 404) and adding more content, but even our new content packed pages have been smashed.

From what I understand no one has ever recovered from being hit by the panda update? it this true.

stricknine



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:08 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

I'm in France, and I seem to see an increase in clics from yesterday. But of course, this isn't really a proof.

I noticed a change in one of my rankings too this morning, from #7 to #4 for a word but I need more data to be sure...

ckissi

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:10 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

@crobb305, you mean you see better results for your international traffic then before ?

crobb305

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:10 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

it's pure pandAmonium.

frank72



 
Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:10 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

@crobb305: my keywords have ALL dropped ...US and international.

rustybrick

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:11 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

Over a month ago we introduced an algorithmic improvement designed to help people
find more high-quality sites in search. Since then we’ve gotten a lot of positive responses about the change: searchers are finding better results, and many great publishers are getting more traffic.

Today we’ve rolled out this improvement globally to all English-language Google users, and we’ve also incorporated new user feedback signals to help people find better search results. In some high-confidence situations, we are beginning to incorporate data about the sites that users block into our algorithms. In addition, this change also goes deeper into the “long tail” of low-quality websites to return higher-quality results where the algorithm might not have been able to make an assessment before. The impact of these new signals is smaller in scope than the original change: about 2% of U.S. queries are affected by a reasonable amount, compared with almost 12% of U.S. queries for the original change.

Based on our testing, we’ve found the algorithm is very accurate at detecting site quality. If you believe your site is high-quality and has been impacted by this change, we encourage you to evaluate the different aspects of your site extensively. Google's quality guidelines provide helpful information about how to improve your site. As sites change, our algorithmic rankings will update to reflect that. In addition, you’re welcome to post in our Webmaster Help Forums. While we aren’t making any manual exceptions, we will consider this feedback as we continue to refine our algorithms.

We will continue testing and refining the change before expanding to additional languages, and we’ll be sure to post an update when we have more to share.

Posted by Amit Singhal, Google Fellow
Official [googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com...]

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 4:35 pm (utc) on Apr 12, 2011]
[edit reason] added quote [/edit]

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Msg#: 4295468 posted 7:13 pm on Apr 11, 2011 (gmt 0)

@crobb305, you mean you see better results for your international traffic then before


No, when searching the English version on google.fr or google.se or google.es, I see my rankings almost as they were here in the U.S. before Panda hit (not quite, but almost). So here in the U.S., my site is still Pandalized, but international, it SEEMS as though the algorithm has incorporated my changes over the past 6 weeks and placed my site back where it was. If true, it would offer a glimmer of hope that upon re-ranking here in the States, I will see the site recover to where it is shown currently on international Panda. Make sense?

Example:

Main 3-word phrase Pre-Panda U.S.: #1 ...Post-Panda US: #33 ...Panda-International (6 weeks after Panda U.S., and after my site cleanups): #5

Main 2-word phrase Pre-Panda U.S.: #10 ...Post-Panda US: #560 ...Panda-International (6 weeks after Panda U.S., and after my site cleanups): #38

[edited by: crobb305 at 7:19 pm (utc) on Apr 11, 2011]

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