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One Week For A Domain Name Changeover!
HuskyPup




msg:4236771
 12:49 pm on Nov 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

I acquired a dropped .com name last Monday 22nd November 2010, uploaded the site immediately and as soon as the site went live 301d the old .in domain to the new one.

Today, 30th, Google, Bing, Yahoo and Duck Duck Go are all showing the new name at it's #1 SERPs position.

Not bad eh? To be honest I was expecting it to be January 2011 for it to happen however I'm not complaining.

 

tedster




msg:4236905
 4:27 pm on Nov 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

Nice to hear some good news. Pretty fast handling Google's part, and great that you kept your ranking. That's real progress compared to just a few years back.

indyank




msg:4236939
 5:12 pm on Nov 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

Pretty fast handling Google's part, and great that you kept your ranking..


i guess he isn't saying that he kept his ranking... he seems to say that he has ranked the newly acquired domain at #1 so quick, for possibly the keyword in the domain name, with that simple old 301 redirect trick...

and it is not just google but bing and yahoo too...

Husky, are u sure that the 301 redirect is helping it?

HuskyPup




msg:4236977
 6:08 pm on Nov 30, 2010 (gmt 0)

he seems to say that he has ranked the newly acquired domain at #1 so quick


Nope, it was already at #1, within 1 week all the major engines have spidered, accepted the 301s and kept the site at #1 with no losses whereas I was actually expecting a good month or so delay and a possible loss of rankings...well happy:-)

HuskyPup




msg:4237839
 2:11 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

How bizarre!

Today Google is now displaying a 15th November cache and the old .in domain in the SERPs. All other SEs are showing the new .com domain.

pageoneresults




msg:4237847
 2:30 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

Today Google is now displaying a 15th November cache and the old .in domain in the SERPs.


Use of NoArchive would have stopped that. ;)

HuskyPup




msg:4237903
 4:07 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

Use of NoArchive would have stopped that. ;)


True...it's something I've never really been concerned about however I've just been reading up on it, has anything much changed since your post:

[webmasterworld.com...]

indyank




msg:4237908
 4:11 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

Nope, it was already at #1, within 1 week all the major engines have spidered, accepted the 301s and kept the site at #1 with no losses whereas I was actually expecting a good month or so delay and a possible loss of rankings...well happy:-)

oops...I totally misunderstood it and it always surprises me at how Tedster understands most things correctly :)

I was actually expecting a good month or so delay and a possible loss of rankings


why were you expecting a possible drop in ranking?

HuskyPup




msg:4237918
 4:27 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

why were you expecting a possible drop in ranking?


Because the last time I did a complete site transfer to a new domain a couple of years ago it took about 6-8 weeks before the SEs got it all sorted out even though I had 301'd the original site immediately and the rankings did yo yo during that period.

Just going off to noarchive some sites now:-)

pageoneresults




msg:4237931
 5:01 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

I've just been reading up on it, has anything much changed since your post?


Not that I am immediately aware of. It would be really difficult for me to provide any substantiated information in this area. It's been almost 5 years since we first started using NoArchive and overall, I just feel that much safer always having a fresh copy of our documents being displayed in the SERPs. On top of that, the SERP listing looks much cleaner without the cache link. :)

If I list out the Pros vs Cons, there are only 1 or 2 Pros and a very long list of Cons. That in itself should give most enough reason to be concerned about how their cache content is being used - and abused. :(

scooterdude




msg:4237938
 5:13 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

I did the same thing, tho it was iternational tld to .com, and although i 301'd each page to the new quivalent page all, the rankings on bing an yahoo have vanished,

the new .com has almost no links as i dare not link build nowadays in case some SE reviewer some where ,,,

the old intl had a few links, nothing spectacular

All this was more than a month ago

HuskyPup




msg:4237963
 6:12 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

and although i 301'd each page


I 301 the entire site from my registrar's control panel, I think it's also available in CPanel, a straight replacement for example.in/whatever to example.com/whatever.

Is this what you did?

scooterdude




msg:4237986
 6:59 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

i used htaccess actually, up to 200 lines worth :)

url structure changed in my case, perhaps that was a problem?

HuskyPup




msg:4237994
 7:07 pm on Dec 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

url structure changed in my case, perhaps that was a problem?


Oh dear...fatal mistake, the general consensus would be that all the search engines will now treat this as a completely new site.

indyank




msg:4238209
 5:06 am on Dec 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

yes, huskypup is right...if you had maintained the same url structure, it would have been good for you...

HuskyPup




msg:4238320
 1:27 pm on Dec 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

And today the new .com is showing with a 26th Nov cache...

Using the Google Global Firefox extension only Ireland is showing the old domain with the new one immediately below it!

Malkovich




msg:4238616
 5:47 am on Dec 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

At the time of this post, for search on wikileaks, Google still displays it's .org domain (which no longer works) but Bing shows the newest one .ch

frances




msg:4238672
 10:45 am on Dec 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

So HuskyPup, are you still bothering to try and get some of the backlinks to your old domain to link to the new domain?

HuskyPup




msg:4238920
 1:27 pm on Dec 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

are you still bothering to try and get some of the backlinks to your old domain to link to the new domain?


They are automatically there since I did an exact url for url replacement and 301d from my registrar's control panel:

example.in/country/widget/product.html automatically goes to:

example.com/country/widget/product.html

Robert Charlton




msg:4239074
 9:43 pm on Dec 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

My emphasis added...
are you still bothering to try and get some of the backlinks to your old domain to link to the new domain?

They are automatically there since I did an exact url for url replacement and 301d...

If you can... it's a good idea to get some of the sites that linked to the old domain to change their links over to the new one. Not always possible, but if it can be done, in my experience it goes a long way toward establishing an extra measure of trust with Google regarding the domain change and the 301ed links.

workingNOMAD




msg:4239834
 8:04 pm on Dec 7, 2010 (gmt 0)

I wonder if you 301 a site that has has a Google penalty to a new domain would be worthwhile in giving the new site a backlink profile boost?

tedster




msg:4241416
 5:09 pm on Dec 11, 2010 (gmt 0)

Depends on what the penalty is penalizing. If the domain was involved in any kind of linking scheme including buying/selling, I would not 301 it to a healthy domain. If the penalty was some kind of inscrutable on-page problem, then a 301 might be helpful to the target.

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