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No changes to rankings even after the wait of 2 months

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Msg#: 4210945 posted 7:56 am on Oct 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Hi Guys,

Basic details

Domain age: 3 months
Page age: 2 and half months (this is the age of the page I am trying to rank)
Keyword detail: 5 words keyword like "blue widget colleges in country"

Pages which ranking for this keyword don't have more than 10 backlinks and maximum PR on the top 10 results is PR 3.

I have done the basic on page optimization and also providing the unique and quality content.

I have build some good links like (high PR blog commenting, got 1 link from wikipedia with the same anchor text, guest posts on 3 high pr blogs)

Point To Note: After 4 to 5 days of posting this article, I check the SERP's and found that I was ranking on the 3rd page, I didnt build any link to this artcile then.

Since this keyword got around 3k searches per month and keeping this in mind I started building backlinks and found within a week I found that I was not even ranking within to 100 results.

I continued and build some more backlinks and waited for few more days but nothing happened.

Now, Its been two months and I am still not within top 100 results of Google, however my root domain is on page 11 for that keyword and it is ranking there just because I have that post on the home page sidebar thats why Google showing "that keyword in the description"

I have heard that there is nothing like sandbox these days thats why I am little nervous as I am also noticing that Google is not ranking any of my pages, my pages are getting indexed within a few minutes but they r not ranking.

Kindly share your experience & suggestion about this problem.




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Msg#: 4210945 posted 8:52 am on Oct 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Maybe the Google algorithm just interprets the other pages as having more relevant content than yours.

You should probably start looking at content. First mechanically in terms of title, h1 tag etc then actually at your prose on the page.


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Msg#: 4210945 posted 11:41 pm on Oct 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Any more suggestions?


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Msg#: 4210945 posted 11:49 pm on Oct 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have heard that there is nothing like sandbox these days

People say there is no sandbox. People say there is a sandbox. Take either opinion with a grain of that thing in a real sandbox.

How many competitors do you have for your keywords? Compare the title and H1 tags, content, and back links of those ranking better than you.

Also, never expect overnight results. Most likely, the pages ranking higher than you have been doing this for far longer than you. There is no magic bullet to ranking well. If there was, then everyone would do it. But not everyone could rank well, so it would no longer be a magic bullet.


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Msg#: 4210945 posted 1:16 am on Oct 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

In cases like this, there's usually no way to identify the problem with any certainty. From what has been said, there may be several possibilities:

-- The page is still too new.

-- The page doesn't have enough relevant content.

-- You built the backlinks much faster than what would happen naturally.

-- You may have over-optimized for the keyword.


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Msg#: 4210945 posted 1:55 am on Oct 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

I had a very similar situation as yours on my own site. But in fact I had actually waited about 6 months because I wasn't concerned about not yet ranking for my targeted 3 word term because I wouldn't be able to handle the extra business anyway (single person operation).

Suddenly one day I started getting quite a few Google referred visitors for my secondary targeted 3 word term -- made my wonder why the sudden popularity. Of course I went and did the search myself and found my site in spot #1 for an extremely competitive term. What was so unusual about it is that my primary targeted search term had me pasted to the wall in spot -950. It's a small site, 38 pages, but what I then realized was that I had a healthy collection of inner linking of my secondary term throughout my site -- in paragraphs. The reason is because my secondary term supports my primary. But I had very few inner links for my primary term because that's what the whole site is very obviously about so I thought it would be overkill to inner link for that term.

Obviously not. I then searched throughout the site and where ever it wasn't overdoing it, I placed an inner link to a primary sub-page even though for the reader's purpose it was of no benefit for it to be there. 3 days later, I moved from spot -950 to about 110 and have been there since without further changes.

Does your targeted term have a balanced inner link profile? It might help. What I also noticed is that repetitive "menu areas" link header, nav, and footer were discounted and that's the only places I had my primary target linked. Secondary was linked in paragraph content. Made a very big difference for me.


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Msg#: 4210945 posted 7:28 am on Oct 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

You built the backlinks much faster than what would happen naturally.

I wouldn't necessarily say they were built too quickly however that's a steep pace to maintain and Google does measure averages on link and site growth. Quick spurts mean suddenly hot content OR artificial/automated growth. Being quick is ok if that's the sites average link growth and you'll have a hard time maintaining that pace.

It's better to be slow and steady.

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