| 5:03 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I've got one small tip that seemed to help a site I work with - use a relatively unappreciated bit of HTML mark-up - the definition list with DL and DT tags. W3C reference [w3.org].
But that site was in a relatively obscure niche, and not one with a whole lot of competition.
| 5:15 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
If you want to see a different version of results try it like this:
define:SEO (without spaces)
| 5:25 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Are you saying using the tags allowed the site to be in the defintaion list?
My niche is a little obscure so I am interested in learning how to use this
| 5:28 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I have just spotted something that occurs on a few sites that are listed. They have this in the HTML
<meta name='title' content='Glossary'/>
I am wondering if this is what google is reading
| 5:31 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
I have a glossary page on one of my sites, which Google uses for some define: searches. The page is called "Glossary" and I used the same DL and DT tags that Tedster mentioned. But the page doesn't draw much traffic from Google, no more than 5 visits per day. Apparently the definition option in Google search isn't used much.
| 5:40 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
aristotle, thanks for your input. How do you use the tags?
| 5:56 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Ooh I like these DL-DT-DD tags. I actually have a glossary page to write next week so I think I'm going to give these tags a try. Thanks for the tips folks. I wasn't aware of them, or as tedster points out they are: "relatively unappreciated".
| 6:03 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
wish there was a wordpress plugin that did this for me
| 6:29 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Here is the html code:
<dl>START DEFINITION LIST
<dt>FIRST TERM TO BE DEFINED GOES HERE</dt>
<dd>DEFINITION OF FIRST TERM GOES HERE</dd>
<dt>SECOND TERM TO BE DEFINED GOES HERE</dt>
<dd>DEFINITION OF SECOND TERM GOES HERE</dd>
CONTINUE MORE TERMS ...
| 7:39 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
|wish there was a wordpress plugin that did this for me |
There are a ton of Wordpress glossary plugins out there; you might find one that has the tags.
| 8:24 pm on Jul 15, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Two of my website are showing for web definition. I didn't use any DL DT..tags
For the first one it just happened, for the second one I just used the same stuff I had on the first which was bold on the term and descriptive language for the term.
It was kind of Google knew when you try to define a term....
Oh and yeah :) I had many links from surfers who appreciated the work I did on defining the terms, I guess that is why I was up there in the first place…
| 8:00 am on Jul 16, 2010 (gmt 0)|
netmeg, cant find one, gone through them all
| 1:21 pm on Jul 19, 2010 (gmt 0)|
"My Instant Glossary Pro" looks very promising. I wonder if it works like they say.
| 1:29 pm on Jul 19, 2010 (gmt 0)|
RP_Joe, yeah I spotted that one. Downloaded and paid for the pro version. HOWEVER, the plugin needs activating and when you click the link the page is dead. Once I paid for the pro version I didn't receive anything.
So as far as I can see this plug in no longer exists
| 2:15 pm on Jul 19, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Apparently it isn't essential to use the html definition tags. Asher02 said that his glossaries don't use them, yet Google still includes his definitions in the results for define: searches. I did a few searches as a test and found some other examples of this as well.
So If for some reason you can't use the html tags, you can try using a list format with bolded terms, and giving the page the title "Glossary". There's a chance that this would work.
| 2:23 pm on Jul 19, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Ah, one of me favorite subjects. There's quite a bit you can do to provide quality signals in this area.
The Ultimate SEO Guide
^ We discussed the various elements that may come into play when ranking for define: queries. Not only is there the Definition List Element <dl> there is also the inline <dfn> Element.
There are a few more elements that come into play in the overall scheme of things like link rel which is where you provide an http reference to the glossary root.
| 6:12 pm on Jul 20, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Google definitions are extracted based on patterns common to definitions. Its an excellent example of information extraction because definitions have a fairly regular patterns, but aren't as simple as phone numbers or email addresses.
[term] is|the process|was|used|"[list item 1], [list item 1]..."| describes [definition]
Of course, they could include the definition tag as an strong indicator of a definition--that may be how they built out the patterns.
I wouldn't spend much trying to optimize the definition search. Its not used nearly as much as regular google, and when it is, people don't visit the source.
| 9:51 am on Jul 21, 2010 (gmt 0)|
What about the <dfn> element? Does google use that?
| 12:41 pm on Jul 21, 2010 (gmt 0)|
Another HTML markup used for gloss is <acronym>
Can I get this <acronym title="as soon as possible">ASAP</acronym>?