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Homepage ranking disappeared but site: is normal,why?

 4:41 pm on Jul 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

The homepage ranking totally disappeared since July 1.But the ranking of other pages didn't and have no changes.After site:domain, the domain homepage is in the first page and the pages that have been included r normal.It is also normal when searching in google with the domain.I have increased the keyword density a few days ago. And in order not to undermine the site's appearance, i have used CSS style to hide the code. The codes r as follows:

#midu {
width: 187px;
height: 80px;
top: 0px;
<div id=midu>
<div style="COLOR: #ad4e6c; FONT-SIZE: 10px">
Anchortext,Anchortext,Anchortext.... </div>
</div> I have deleted the hidden codes now.I want to ask how can i deal with this problem? Thanks very much.



 5:58 pm on Jul 2, 2010 (gmt 0)

I had exactly the same thing in March and have been trying various ways out ever since. Even did a reincusion request which came back as "reviewed" but the rankings have only recovered a faction of what they were.

I became convinced in early June it was an over-optimisation penalty so every couple of weeks I am "de-optimising" something. If I get a breakthrough I'll pass it on here if you're still in the mire. Perhaps you'd do the same?



 8:51 am on Jul 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

what do u actually do to solve the problem?


 9:15 am on Jul 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

Personally, I would undo the keyword density changes you did first and see if that rectifies it. I'm always wary about hiding things in CSS too. Sometimes it's essential, but if it can be avoided, I'd avoid it.


 9:42 am on Jul 3, 2010 (gmt 0)

How could it ever be essential to hide a list of anchor text links 1000 pixels off the page?

Surely you can find ways of increasing keywords and links on the page where they can actually be clicked on too?


 9:30 am on Jul 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

i have deleted hidden code. but do i need to Request Site reconsideration?


 6:35 pm on Jul 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

It could help - hidden content is something Google's guidelines say to avoid, so letting them know you removed it could speed things along, if this was in fact the reason for home page problem.


 7:26 pm on Jul 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Considering that you installed hidden keywords/text/whatever, even though you seem to have removed it already,

I'd suggest a good read through Googles Webmaster Guidelines to make sure you haven't inadvertently violated any other rules/guidelines/etc, and fix any problems you find, ....

BEFORE.... you submit a reconsideration request.



 8:37 pm on Jul 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Whichever site gave you the idea to try placing text 1000 pixels off the side of the screen should be avoided too. Your browser lets Google know where you visit and so if you're one of those guys who visits lots of known spammer hangouts you may be marked as a spammy webmaster too when stuff like this pops up on your sites.

I'm not saying Google does that, just pointing out that they have the tools to do so if they so desire.


 9:17 pm on Jul 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

Your browser lets Google know where you visit

But only if you've got the Google Toolbar installed or use Chrome, right?


 10:18 pm on Jul 4, 2010 (gmt 0)

...Or if the page serves adsense.

...Or if the site runs Google Analytics.

My guess is that Google can track a single user over a vast part of their web journey.


 8:38 am on Jul 5, 2010 (gmt 0)

Whichever site gave you the idea to try placing text 1000 pixels off the side of the screen should be avoided too

This used to be quite a common trick for dynamic/dropdown/slider navigation menus and it does have it's uses, but obviously if it's going to raise flags with Google an alternative method should be sought out. I suspect there are a lot of sites that use this quite innocently.


 9:23 am on Jul 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

I have my homepage (just homepage) disappear in mid june too but it is due to other reasons.

zch0071, what I wanted to know is that is your page still fresh in Google's cache? Mine stop at June 30 and there's no more new cache on the homepage since then - not even when I posted a new blogpost and published it on my homepage (it used to pick things up in minutes).


 9:51 am on Jul 14, 2010 (gmt 0)

add a no archive meta tag to get rid of the cache. It serves YOU little good, it serves your competitors a glimpse of the changes you're making and if a visitor uses it they see a Google copy they know is safe and you don't even get a visit.

IMO cache should be turned off, it's usefulness has passed.

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