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What Is a Bad Neighborhood? Can You Know by Visiting?
walkman



 
Msg#: 4046543 posted 6:29 pm on Dec 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

The -60 or -50 is in the news [webmasterworld.com...]

and it most likely means a bunch of sudden links from 'bad neighborhood sites.'

One that has 450 links to vi@gr@ and g@mbling sites can easily be identified as a bad one. But what else: will those sites rank for their name, cache daily or what else?

No, I have no intention on buying, selling or exchanging links with them. I'm just curious. I know that sites with no trust no longer get indexed daily, but I don't know if this applies to 'bad neighborhood' sites or not. What do you think?

 

tedster

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Msg#: 4046543 posted 12:50 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

An important clue is the word "neighborhood" itself. I can't find a reference right now - maybe it was something I heard at PubCon - but the idea is that the site is part of a network, a kind of link farm that either powers spam or malware.

This kind of place usually has very minor content value - that's usually something that jumps out at you if you dare take the time to visit, and it's unlikely you would want to link to such a site from your own quality site.

There's nothing about a pharmacy link or gambling link that is inherently a bad neighborhood, although certainly some of them are card carrying members. So from what I understand the answer is "yes, you will know if you visit there".

walkman



 
Msg#: 4046543 posted 2:04 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

So it's even worst than a forum with 40 poker and pharma links?

tedster

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Msg#: 4046543 posted 2:14 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

A real forum? Or an auto-generated "looks-like-a-forum"?

martinibuster

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Msg#: 4046543 posted 6:24 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

An interesting way to see neighborhood relationships is to take a look at the TouchGraph Google page [touchgraph.com] and enter a URL for a site. Then enter the URL for a site that might be known to you as spammy, or even a URL that was sent to you as part of a three way link request.

serenoo

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Msg#: 4046543 posted 9:38 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

But this tool is not able to get all backlinks from websites because google does not provide them to us. Is it right?

martinibuster

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Msg#: 4046543 posted 9:45 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

>>>But this tool is not able to...

Yes, it doesn't. The point of the tool is that it gives you a visual representation of what neighborhoods look like, at a glance. ;)

serenoo

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Msg#: 4046543 posted 9:27 am on Dec 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

Do you trust about a visual representation that has not in input all the data?

martinibuster

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Msg#: 4046543 posted 10:34 am on Dec 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

Did I say it's complete? No.

Is this thread about complete backlinks showing? No.

Did I say this shows ALL backlinks? No.

Does this mean you are confused by my post?

Yes.

Here is the clarification... again:
The discussion asks, what is a bad neighborhood. My answer is a link that shows how to VISUALIZE a neighborhood.

Now let me express this in a way I hope is as clear as possible for you: My response shows how to VISUALIZE a neighborhood.

;)

...because google does not provide them to us.

Yes! And the funny thing about your statement is that you probably learned that from a post I made many years ago. ;)

serenoo

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Msg#: 4046543 posted 10:30 am on Dec 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

My opinion is that we cannot be sure that such visualization is ok. It could show a good website that is not a bad neighborhood (because google do not show all the bad/related links) and then you could discover it is a bad neighborhood.
Probably it is a good tool, but we cannot trust 100% of it.

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