tedster
msg:4046689 | 12:50 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0) |
An important clue is the word "neighborhood" itself. I can't find a reference right now - maybe it was something I heard at PubCon - but the idea is that the site is part of a network, a kind of link farm that either powers spam or malware. This kind of place usually has very minor content value - that's usually something that jumps out at you if you dare take the time to visit, and it's unlikely you would want to link to such a site from your own quality site. There's nothing about a pharmacy link or gambling link that is inherently a bad neighborhood, although certainly some of them are card carrying members. So from what I understand the answer is "yes, you will know if you visit there".
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walkman
msg:4046708 | 2:04 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0) |
So it's even worst than a forum with 40 poker and pharma links?
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tedster
msg:4046718 | 2:14 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0) |
A real forum? Or an auto-generated "looks-like-a-forum"?
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martinibuster
msg:4046790 | 6:24 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0) |
An interesting way to see neighborhood relationships is to take a look at the TouchGraph Google page [touchgraph.com] and enter a URL for a site. Then enter the URL for a site that might be known to you as spammy, or even a URL that was sent to you as part of a three way link request.
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serenoo
msg:4046846 | 9:38 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0) |
But this tool is not able to get all backlinks from websites because google does not provide them to us. Is it right?
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martinibuster
msg:4046848 | 9:45 am on Dec 21, 2009 (gmt 0) |
>>>But this tool is not able to... Yes, it doesn't. The point of the tool is that it gives you a visual representation of what neighborhoods look like, at a glance. ;)
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serenoo
msg:4047459 | 9:27 am on Dec 22, 2009 (gmt 0) |
Do you trust about a visual representation that has not in input all the data?
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martinibuster
msg:4047488 | 10:34 am on Dec 22, 2009 (gmt 0) |
Did I say it's complete? No. Is this thread about complete backlinks showing? No. Did I say this shows ALL backlinks? No. Does this mean you are confused by my post? Yes. Here is the clarification... again:
The discussion asks, what is a bad neighborhood. My answer is a link that shows how to VISUALIZE a neighborhood. Now let me express this in a way I hope is as clear as possible for you: My response shows how to VISUALIZE a neighborhood. ;) | ...because google does not provide them to us. |
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Yes! And the funny thing about your statement is that you probably learned that from a post I made many years ago. ;)
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serenoo
msg:4048222 | 10:30 am on Dec 23, 2009 (gmt 0) |
My opinion is that we cannot be sure that such visualization is ok. It could show a good website that is not a bad neighborhood (because google do not show all the bad/related links) and then you could discover it is a bad neighborhood.
Probably it is a good tool, but we cannot trust 100% of it.
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