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Google Sidewiki Comment Capability For Toolbar Users
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msg:3994236
 4:13 pm on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Google Sidewiki Comment Capability For Toolbar Users [news.cnet.com]
Sidewiki is a new addition to the Google Toolbar that will let users read comments on any Web site and add their own in a special interface on the left hand side of the screen enabled by the toolbar. This idea has been tried before by others, but Google is proposing to use an algorithm to rank comments by quality and to link comments to a user's Google Profile.

Google has developed an algorithm that it says can filter out obvious spam, naughty words, and the classic all-caps technique employed by some of the Internet's more unhinged pundits, said Caesar Sengupta, group product manager at Google. As comments build over time, a recursive algorithm can analyze the quality of past comments using reader votes on the comment's usefulness.You can share your comments with your Facebook or Twitter accounts, and can post a link to a blog item discussing that Web page with a snippet of the text, Sengupta said. Only Google Toolbar users will be able to see the comments on the Web page, obviously, but Google plans to work on an API (application programming interface) that will allow developers to use Sidewiki in other places.


 

ken_b




msg:3999004
 12:22 am on Oct 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

Has anyone here tried this?

moderator note - Because the code for SideWiki Defeat is hosted at Google Code: [code.google.com...] I switched the original link to that page.

From the quote on the linked page it sounds to me like this just blocks tracking via Sidewiki. Or am I misunderstanding it.

Defeats Sidewiki tracking amalgamation of comments by generating and appending a unique hash to each URL. Works only if there is no hash portion present in the request URL and JavaScript is enabled.

Does it block Sidewiki and comments from appearing on your site altogether?

zett




msg:3999138
 9:29 am on Oct 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

ken_b:

Does it block Sidewiki and comments from appearing on your site altogether?

I understand that this adds a random number (hash) to the URL, creating a unique URL for each pageview/visit. I think folks can still comment using Sidewiki, but these comments will probably never read by anybody else, because they will access another URL.

However, Google might be reading here as well and will probably fix this loophole soon, so this fix may not work forever.

Blocking all GTB users might also be a problem, if up to 30% of the users have GTB installed.

carey2542




msg:3999162
 10:27 am on Oct 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

The only other option is to install an SSL on every site you want to protect from SideWiki. Currently it doesn't work on secured sites. These are generally provided by your hosting company for a yearly charge. If anyone knows of a good, free SSL service, let us know.

ken_b




msg:3999214
 12:54 pm on Oct 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

... this adds a random number (hash) to the URL, creating a unique URL for each pageview/visit.

So is that going to result in a pile of phantom duplicate pages?

zett




msg:3999298
 2:59 pm on Oct 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

So is that going to result in a pile of phantom duplicate pages?

That's what I was thinking, too. Maybe not on the search index (because of the script being Javascript), but the Sidewiki application will face a pile of (phantom) duplicate pages.

outland88




msg:3999411
 5:57 pm on Oct 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

There are a few services now beginning to promote “defeat sidewiki” tools scripts. Perhaps some of the more technically minded can post what they think is the best and the drawbacks.

chewy




msg:4000154
 8:13 pm on Oct 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

I so long ago disabled the Google Toolbar that I totally forgot it was even gone.

I do not want to waste another minute to install that bad boy again.

Does this work native in Chrome? That way I don't bung up my Firefox with icky Google Toolbar BLING.

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