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Pushing 40000 new pages live
chatrath




msg:3987105
 4:14 am on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi,

We are about to push 40,000 pages live, will it effect my ranking ?

Pages are almost same, contains 2-3 lines of unique content .

or let me know how many pages we can push life daily.

Cheers

 

tangor




msg:3987212
 9:21 am on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

Let me know how it turns out. 2-3 lines of content... how much link bait can there be in that? Times 40,000....

Receptional Andy




msg:3987213
 9:29 am on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

How unique these pages are depends on what they contain other than the "2-3 lines of unique content". It seems unlikely you'd get more than a handful of these to rank independently - there's a good chance only one will rank.

You may need to describe why you have created these pages in more detail, so we can better understand what you're trying to achieve.

It sounds like you may be aiming for quantity over quality, and that's not usually something that will equate to a quantity of search traffic.

Badcol




msg:3987525
 7:33 pm on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

In the past the maximum I've seen listed has been about 600 pages from any site I've submitted with over 2000 pages. Even then they had unique titles, descriptions and keywords. I produced a concise sitemap and integrated analytics into each page (probably helping to reduce my unique content further).

Google is very good at sniffing out valuable content and ignoring pages that are copies or composite pages.

The best results I have had have been when I've balanced over 30% unique content to 70% framed links etc. But then I still had to include rel="canonical" links in each page refering the search engines to a 'peak page'.

As Tangor, I'd be very interested to see how you get on.

All the best

BC

chatrath




msg:3987531
 7:41 pm on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

Thanks guys for your reply.

Well our site is directory site and we found new 40,000 listing for different category. Each page contains the address and map and rest all is same like same header, footer and top navigation.

Title is different but description is somewhat same.

Thanks again.

jd01




msg:3987537
 7:55 pm on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

or let me know how many pages we can push life daily.

5000 has been said to be the max you should add / day.

We are about to push 40,000 pages live, will it effect my ranking ?

Pages are almost same, contains 2-3 lines of unique content .

Uh, my guess at the effect of 40,000 pages with 2 to 3 lines of unique content is, Best Case Scenario: It has no impact. More Likely Scenario IMO: You tank the site and destroy the rankings. Worst Case Scenario: Try again on a different site...

Adding 40,000 pages of 'content' where only 2 to 3 lines per page are unique sounds quite a bit like 'useless' for search engines. If they are really for your visitors you might think about 'noindex,follow' if you can't put that tag in and know your visitors will have a better experience at your site, then they are probably for search engines and ranking purposes, which equates to spam.

chatrath




msg:3987547
 8:05 pm on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

We have just not added the tag "nofollow", as the pages are for customers.

Example if you are looking for night New York night life you will see the results with the name and address of the hotel / restaurant, if you click on more info link from search results page you will see Hotels page with name address and phone number.

This is done to avoid no results for any category.

chatrath




msg:3987552
 8:05 pm on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

************We have just added the tag "nofollow", as the pages are for customers. *************

jd01




msg:3987560
 8:20 pm on Sep 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

************We have just added the tag "nofollow", as the pages are for customers. *************

LMAO. Glad to hear it.
I would not necessarily nofollow them... I would noindex,follow them.

It tells G the pages should not be returned in the results, but they will still count as pages on your site and can still pass link weight. I would still adhere to the 5000 pages a day max rule, and if you don't serve last modified headers, highly recommend spacing it out a bit more, so you don't upload 5000 a day for 3 days when G does not spider those pages and have it look like you added 15000 all on the same day.

KRMwebdesign




msg:3987876
 9:46 am on Sep 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Are these 40,000 individual xhtml pages or is it 40,000 records in a database? What happens if you need to update 40,000 individual xhtml pages? It would take you a lifetime. What happens if you need to change the meta description or titles or something? Who signed off on that?

I really hope the pages are coming dynamically from a database otherwise you're giving yourself 40,000 pages worth of website work and you'll never get to focus on your business.

chatrath




msg:3987877
 9:50 am on Sep 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Yes they are coming from database. No manual work... All title tags, description tags are coming from database.

KRMwebdesign




msg:3987882
 10:06 am on Sep 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

Oh ok lol. I don't why I thought they'd be static pages. Good luck with it.

fishfinger




msg:3988737
 11:44 am on Sep 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

if you click on more info link from search results page you will see Hotels page with name address and phone number.

I guess it's a bit late to say as you've already done this, but to my mind a better way of doing this would be to have a hidden div with the extra info (you say this is only a line or two) instead of a new page. Easier for users to browse and because there is an 'onClick' event to display the new content you can still track the interest in any listing for stats.

zehrila




msg:3988791
 2:35 pm on Sep 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

That would give google a reasonable reason to understand that your site is a cookie cutter and doesn't add real value to its index, i would say roll out your update gradually. Matt Cutts in his video said it would be fine if you add about 300 pages to start with, so i would say you should just add up 200-300 pages a day till you reach your 40k pages mark.

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