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Google Updates and SERP Changes - September 2009

 3:04 pm on Aug 31, 2009 (gmt 0)

< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

For the last few weeks in my niche I've been seeing sites that occupy position #6 disappear (particularly toward the end of the week) in and out of the SERPs.

[edited by: tedster at 4:44 am (utc) on Sep. 2, 2009]



 4:40 pm on Sep 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

Just spotted a weirdness. One of my personal sidelines is < a particular area > and I keep an eye on the keyphrase. Usually it has around 90 million sites listed, 5 mins ago it registered 253 million. So something is being tweaked I'm assuming.

All the best


[edited by: tedster at 4:50 pm (utc) on Sep. 15, 2009]
[edit reason] no specific keywords, thanks [/edit]


 8:10 pm on Sep 15, 2009 (gmt 0)

< moved from another location >

Has anybody else out there noticed a huge overnight jump in their search results. Before Sunday gone I regularly had approx 4000 links in the search results for my .co.uk website. On sunday it jumped to over 41500, an increase of 37500. Not sure what happened, can anybody explain or give a theory? Regards John.

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 9:13 pm (utc) on Sep. 15, 2009]
[edit reason] moved post [/edit]


 7:37 am on Sep 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

seing things settle now but and still confused, still questioning if it really has settled or is this the beginning of a new update?

Any suggestions on what google is applying weight on at the moment?


 7:44 am on Sep 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

One of my sites that had been moved to spot 19-20 for the summer is back at 9-10 but the cache is missing.


 8:35 am on Sep 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hello atomic

I have had such a thing with my sites, a single page skips from position 30 to 9 overnight then a couple of days later it's back to 30.

I am pretty sure that Google is weighing up one of it's many factors but Aam baffled to which?


 8:55 am on Sep 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

We have so many solid incoming links that traffic isn't really being affected. But the missing cache seems unusual.

And my site's position change lasted about 3 months where it held steady. At that time a completely new IP address appeared for the cache. My site is the only one without a cache and we do not use NOARCHIVE. Nor do we engage in any activities that might invite a penalty. We don't sell anything. Nor do we have ads.

[edited by: tedster at 2:48 pm (utc) on Sep. 18, 2009]


 2:54 pm on Sep 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

Have you tried looking at it on different Dc's?


 3:18 pm on Sep 18, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have just found a page on my site which has a cached version for one search and no cache for a slightly different search.


 7:32 pm on Sep 20, 2009 (gmt 0)

I think I'm seeing an update which shouldn't be happening if the new infrastructure is in place.

Mini site links have disappeared for my site and there's been the biggest shuffling today in the SERPS I watch since this time last month. Looks like a periodic update to me.




 10:06 pm on Sep 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

Not noticing anything major. pretty solid so far.

however, Bing move me from 6 to 22...?!?


 7:23 am on Sep 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have noticed that one of my keywords which jumped from 30 to 8 last week is no longer visible in the top 100.

What could be the reason for this?
Normally when this happens it's a reshuffle of the page but it's been 2 days now and it still is not back. The rest of the website is showing fine.


 2:48 pm on Sep 22, 2009 (gmt 0)

One of our money sites dropped 50% in traffic from Google on the 15th - our top 50 keywords moved up in position, while the rest of our long tail and "really long tail" keywords seemed to get dropped...
Yesterday, everything returned to normal, with slight increases everywhere.
Indicates an apparent update/tweak somewhere in the Gsystem. The coming days will tell...


 8:48 am on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

There is something happening, as my keyword is still not back but stranger things are happening as today I noticed another dissapear.

G is definatley doing something as dc's were jumping around showing differnt searches last night on .co.uk.


 9:00 am on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Just been looking at the website where the keyword has dropped, the tail end words are there but the major keywords are no longer showing for the page

What could this be?
A penalty as I have found the page on 280?


 11:52 am on Sep 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

MAybe check your incoming links to make sure the anchor text hasn't changed, otherwise might just be a mis-parse and will update fine next time. Sounds weird whatever.


 8:37 pm on Sep 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

Pages across my sites that were indexed over the past week have just vanished from the SERPS. Older caches showing for some too.

Anyone else seeing a huge roll back?

[edited by: tedster at 8:41 pm (utc) on Sep. 24, 2009]
[edit reason] moved from another location [/edit]


 8:46 pm on Sep 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

Seems Goog is having "difficulties" switching over to Caffeine.

That's why we're getting conflicting reports.

About a week ago, it seems as if Goog needed to "update" the SERPs and the caffeine infrastructure wasn't working like they wanted, so they switched back to the old style of roll outs.

Now this. :)

Of course, they never really do a full "roll back" but it's close enough to call it one.


 9:18 pm on Sep 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have the same problems for multiple keywords. All my SERPs results fall down about 4-5 days... It's just my site problem? We are penalized... ?


 1:27 pm on Sep 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

Whatever they're doing I wish they would change it back... It has nothing to do with my rankings and everything to do with the fact I can't find S@!# anymore. (I'm fairly good at searching (or used to be) and I can't find what I'm looking for, so I can completely understand why Joe Public conducts an average of 6 searches (or so I read) to find a 'good' answer.)

I've spent so much more time searching lately for things I used to be able to find the answer to within two searches I'm about to switch my default search engine.

They're trying to guess the 'one right answer' for me and aren't even close! I wish they would go back to just giving me what I searched for and letting me figure out how to search.

It's getting absolutely ridiculous!

ADDED: To elaborate just a bit I got a f****** YouTube dance video or something like that as Result #2 earlier when I was searching for PHP code. Are you kidding? If any of you 'Googlers' are reading this thread: Try to make me visit too many Google Owned sites or features and I won't visit any!


 4:27 pm on Sep 26, 2009 (gmt 0)

I am starting to feel the same way. I am very close to swithcing over to Bing as my default.The caffeine test DC results are rellevant the current are not. Okay it has been long enough since the announcement. When I swithc that is where I will stay. Google's time is running out if they do not fix this soon as far as I am concerned.


 5:07 pm on Sep 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

when do you think the caffine update will be done, at the moment everything is a yo-yo. This is not good as I agree most search results that come up are not very helpful.


 6:02 pm on Sep 28, 2009 (gmt 0)

This month Bing shot up to 25% of my Google traffic which shocked me a little. It had been about 10-12%.


 6:11 am on Sep 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

This month Bing shot up to 25% of my Google traffic which shocked me a little. It had been about 10-12%.

Could have been me... I've stared using Bing / Yahoo rather than G, because I'm tired of seeing YouTube when I search for code and not being able to find what I'm looking for anymore with G. When my search starts with PHP or JavaScript followed by 'keyword keyword keyword' I don't really want to see a 5 minute video of anything, and when I switch the order of the words I certainly don't want to see a jumble of the same results I just saw. I want a text example of some code and if I change the order of the words or change one word within the search I would like to see some different results, because *obviously* I didn't find what I was looking for the first time... Not sure what they've been changing since I've been searching for code examples (it's been a while), but it's not for the better.

There's one example where I found the result here and about an hour later decided to see if I could get back to it... It was a post by birdbrain in the JavaScript forum where someone wanted to capture type in a <textarea> and display it on the left side of the screen in a div while the person was typing.

(It was simple code and I had already written a version of it myself, but I like to see other people's take on what I do and see if they have an idea maybe I didn't think of or have something more I could incorporate. Anyway, when I was having issues finding the 'good' results for other searches I decided to see if I could find it again if I searched using what I knew about the post... I knew what site it was on. I knew the keywords involved. I even knew the UserName of the person who originally posted it here, which significantly cuts down on the possible results... (I think I even typed in a portion of the code I remembered once.) It should have been easy to find... After an hour I gave up.)


 7:15 am on Sep 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

This post? [webmasterworld.com...]

Got it on the first try, result #4


My pet peeve on code examples is seeing tons of scraped mailing list archives, except for a link to the original post or thread. And no, I don't want to see a video of Elmo when I type in Zope cookieMonster...


 7:58 am on Sep 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

No, actually that one is very similar, but it's not the one I originally saw... I cannot find the original reply I saw from birdbrain. (I clicked on that result no less than 10 times thinking it HAD to be the post I was looking for and I was missing something... I cannot remember the original search that turned it up or I would post a link to it.)

Here's my version of the same thing:

function writeText() {

birdbrain's was two lines... Either version simply grabs the text a visitor enters in a textarea and displays it on the page in a div. (I think birdbrain's set the display of the div to 'block', which was unnecessary with mine, because I have another function which actually creates the div and takes care of that part.)

My pet peeve on code examples is seeing tons of scraped mailing list archives, except for a link to the original post or thread. And no, I don't want to see a video of Elmo when I type in Zope cookieMonster...

LMAO. I'm right there with you... I should have made notes on the most furstrating two hours of searching I've experienced, because some of them were comical.

I think the biggest point of my posts here re the updates G is and has been making is: For the first time I can remember since joining WebmasterWorld I have used another search engine to do something besides check my rankings.... Something at G has changed, and from my perspective it's not for the better, because I would not be switching from one SE to another if something hadn't gone 'wrong' or changed significantly along the way with G. When I wanted to find something I used G exclusively for years. I'm not any more.

I cannot find the post in either of the other engines either (Bing / Y!), but for the first time in years I'm actually searching for information in other search engines and giving them a chance to impress me, which is not something I normally do...


 10:18 am on Sep 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

Boy the numbers are fluctuating!

Day 1: search for "mydomain.co.uk" returns 31,000
Day 2: search for "mydomain.co.uk" returns 540,000

been rotating like that for the past 4-5 days. Can't see any different in the results.


 10:50 am on Sep 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi Guys yeah im seeing the same thing here when I do a site: search

Yesterday : 41,000
Today : 831,000


 2:05 pm on Sep 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

haha its now dropped down to 39,600.

Something is going on, any ideas?


 2:14 pm on Sep 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

on .com 39,600
on .co.uk 830,000

Anyone else seeing a dramatic change when you do a site: on Google.co.uk, and what does it mean?


 4:07 pm on Sep 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

Logal google search are reporting a high impact in the number of indexed pages.

Search "site:terra.com" in google.es - 58.5M
Search "site:terra.com" in google.com - 18.4M

Something is changing from yesterday in google.es


 4:26 pm on Sep 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

I am seeing the same thing. We have lost pages since yesterday. Same amount in Google.com and the sandbox DC

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