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United Nations : Home page PR 9, Internal pages PR 0
Suvro




msg:3917700
 12:09 pm on May 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I was having a look at [un.org...] The website has a Page rank of 9.

However, it was surprising to see that some of the following internal pages that have been linked directly from the home page have a page rank of 0.

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The very fact that these have been linked from the homepage (with Pagerank 9) should have led to at least some pagerank in the above internal pages.

Will appreciate some views on this.

Thanks,
Suvro

 

tedster




msg:3917922
 4:55 pm on May 21, 2009 (gmt 0)

At least these pages are whate bar, not gray bar. But it certainly does NOT make any sense, at least according to the original PR formula. I'd say it's an example of the games Google plays with toolbar PR.

Suvro




msg:3918935
 7:31 am on May 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Can we have views on this ?

Thanks,
Suvro

robzilla




msg:3918950
 9:02 am on May 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

No games here, they've simply changed their URL structure since the last Toolbar PR update. The URL of the homepage hasn't changed, so the PR value won't either, and the white bar for the inner pages shows that they've been indexed.

Robert Charlton




msg:3919105
 6:24 pm on May 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

Some inner pages, btw, do show TBPR. If you go down to the Site Index link at the bottom of the English language Welcome page, and then click on General Assembly link (either in the index or in the left nav column), you'll see a PR8 for this page. I remember seeing others when I was playing with it a day or two ago.

tedster




msg:3919106
 6:26 pm on May 23, 2009 (gmt 0)

they've simply changed their URL structure

Thanks for that observation. Yes, archive.org confirms that the old directory structure was /french/ rather than /fr/ - and so on. The 301 redirects are in place, so this will make an interesting swite to watch for the next export of toolbar PR.

robzilla




msg:3919312
 11:20 am on May 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

Some inner pages, btw, do show TBPR

Those pages have not been affected by the recent change in URL structure. The General Assembly section has been located at /ga/ for over ten years. They may still be in the process of making these changes throughout the site, as there seem to be some irregularities. For example, I would expect the English version of General Assembly to be located at /en/ga/, instead of /ga/, and the French version of that same section is located at /french/ga/, instead of /fr/ga/.

suzukik




msg:3919437
 8:21 pm on May 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

the old directory structure was /french/ rather than /fr/ - and so on. The 301 redirects are in place,

/english/ is 301 redirected to /en/index.shtml not /en/. Both /en/ and /en/index.shtml are indexed by Google. This is not the case in /fr/.

Did they miss some canonicalizations? ;)

Suvro




msg:3919548
 3:51 am on May 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

May be, as mentioned above, they are missing out some canonicalizations.

However, it seems pretty evident that the page rank is not showing up due to the 301 redirect from the old dir structure to the new one.

I had a similar experience while working with a large ecard site some years back. During that time Google was not well equipped in handling canonicalization issues at it is now. So we had 301 redirected the non www urls to www. A couple of weeks later we found all the internal pages of the site going down to a pr of 0. It took around 2-3 months before the PR was reinstated in all the internal pages.

Thanks,
Suvro

robzilla




msg:3919776
 2:51 pm on May 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

The 301 is not the problem, Suvro, it's the solution :-)

robzilla




msg:3921256
 11:06 pm on May 27, 2009 (gmt 0)

All URLs mentioned in the first post, along with all of the other pages that have changed location, now have Toolbar PageRank values. See Toolbar PageRank Update [webmasterworld.com].

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