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Google.com SERP Changes - May 2009
Pass the Dutchie

 8:05 am on Apr 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Something is up. We monitor google.de very closely and the SERP's have remained very static for a couple of weeks now. No jumping around of sites as we have seen over the past months with the exception of a few sites that should not be ranked as highly as they are. Last time I saw this there was a big shake up. Lets hope for the best results ; )

[edited by: tedster at 5:39 am (utc) on May 1, 2009]



 10:13 am on May 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

I have lost nearly 1000 backlinks as per WMT stats since yesterday...

Though have seen not major change in rankings/traffic yet.


 12:17 pm on May 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

Same here Ankit, we did experience our first drop in G traffic in years last month. I think we dropped around 15% across the board for millions of long-tail serps.


 12:18 pm on May 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

About a month ago the number of pages returned by the site command for my 11 year old site halved around the same time image search jumped from returning dozens of my images to 700 (i've been trying to get out of safe search hell for a few years now). During the last month the figure returned by the site command has been fixed at this halved figure but image search has been jumping albeit very briefly to several thousand pictures although these additions all appear to be very small pictures only (i.e: forum avatars). Anyway for what it's worth the last few days both figures have been increasing steadily...

[edited by: hugh at 12:24 pm (utc) on May 8, 2009]


 12:23 pm on May 8, 2009 (gmt 0)

Long Tail serps have fallen last month as total keyword count was about 15% less compared to past 6 months average, however could not see any significant change in traffic (hoping not to see any...)


 9:59 am on May 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Dear All,

This is to request your attention about the fact that 2 weeks back Google was update and as a result rank of my website has been affected. My website was ranking very well in Top- 10 with 7-8 keywords in google.com from last 4-5 month WITH HOME PAGE. As update have done and my websiteís all keywords had gone 100+ with all keywords. All keyword were coming with home page in Top 10, but now only 2 keywords are coming with home page, rest of are coming with inner pages with the 100+ rank(but it should be came with home page).

I have put up my efforts (in last two week) to work on all these keywords with the purpose of ranking the Home page better. At present, I am faced with the problem is that only 2 keywords have come back with some improvement ( 1 is now 80th position, and 2nd one is on 40th position with home page). Still, rest of the keywords are not improving and are coming with inner pages. I have been targeting them for the home page as they were ranking previously.

I have not witnessed any improvement and I am changing the inner pages location to home page with the purpose of better ranking. After this also I have not seen any improvement. As a SEO professional I would like to mention that client doesnít want to see the result with the inner pages in SERP.

If anyone kindly specify the reason of having such type of problem that I am encountering, I shall be highly obliged. I am handling 15-16 projects with my colleague, but only with this project I am facing the problems.
Can anyone suggest me how I can solve this problem as early as possible? it will be really a support.

Many thanks,

[edited by: tedster at 11:25 pm (utc) on May 9, 2009]


 2:46 am on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

May 8 I got about a 20% drop. Google is trying to do something, as it goes back and forth


 12:14 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

I ran an utility that checks hundreds of data centers.

About of half of the datacenters are showing us in the top 10 for our money keyword.

The other half shows us in the 600's.

I even ran the stats on one of my low competition, highly niche site, where very little changes, and I went from #3 to #97 on half the google sites.

These are sites I have mainted their position for years, so the only thing I can think of is an update that has gone wrong, and Google is in the process of reversing it, but very slowly.

I don't ussually watch data centers, as 99% of them have been producing the same results for years.

indias next no1

 1:37 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

from april my traffic is steadily getting down, now for the last 3 days the traffi is even worse


 3:24 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

regional and personalized search algos anyone?


 7:12 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

My site appears in G UK but not in US. My server is located in the US but the topic of the site is a UK one.


 10:13 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

"Google is trying to do something, as it goes back and forth"

There have been two different groups of data for the past three weeks or so. The "newer" group seems to seldom last more than a couple hours, but after months of basically no changes, this is either the biggest change in the results in quite a long time, or just testing an algo ingredient that so far has not been deemed worthy of the main results.


 11:33 pm on May 10, 2009 (gmt 0)

I agree steveb, we have not noticed much of a change either. I think we are seeing various filters being tested and tweaked but that is about it.


 12:35 am on May 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

It seems that sites which rely almost exclusively on Google traffic are losing traffic and sites that get traffic from many sources are not falling off. Could this be a move towards serps placing more value on links that receive traffic from many sources already? Perhaps this is a response to Twitter type sites with their own search engines that are able to show "what's hot right now" ?

There is not enough data to make this conclusion but i've noticed it as a trend recently.


 5:07 am on May 11, 2009 (gmt 0)


We are experiencing Exactly the same you are. Have you seen any changes yet?



 2:49 pm on May 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

With that forum I'm monitoring, 'site:' results continue to drop, as does traffic. It may be a coincidence, but I noticed that non supplementary results (as shown by site:domain.com/*) appear to be rising, about 10% higher than before. Unfortunately, for every rise, the fall in total 'site:' results is about ten fold.


 8:26 am on May 11, 2009 (gmt 0)

My site has againi dropped in position after 1 month exact.
Will it bounce back again, it looks as if the pages are being penailised as the site is there for it's name and a few keywords.

Is there anything I can do?

[edited by: tedster at 3:32 pm (utc) on May 11, 2009]
[edit reason] moved from another location [/edit]


 12:38 am on May 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

I can confirm a personal site of mine has lost rankings for the majority of it's high value terms as of May 8th (based on traffic reports).

The trend seems strange in my review of data/search results; it is almost like someone submitted a spam report on the domain (even though there has been nothing shady happening).

My home page does not appear for brand/domain related searches, which is what initially led me to this conclusion.

To be fair, I have not done anything "new" with the site since last year and fortunately, I have a few updates to make that should help. I probably will register with GWC as well and try to gain a couple quick links.

[edited by: tedster at 11:59 pm (utc) on May 12, 2009]
[edit reason] by request [/edit]


 11:04 am on May 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

If I were operating a good traffic website, I would not share any information from which commercial insights could be gleaned, whether thats stats, advertising, or on-page info. If there is a trend, it will become paid-for over time.


 4:43 pm on May 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

It seems that sites which rely almost exclusively on Google traffic are losing traffic and sites that get traffic from many sources are not falling off.

Interesting observation.

Obviously not enough data, but could signal a change of concept from link-as-a-vote or a more fundamental rebalancing of the random-hop idea behind PR. Instead of these concepts, actual traffic flow is being monitored.

I wonder how many sites have some form of google (or google affiliated, or market traded) tracking embedded on them? Certainly WebmasterWorld has taken the plunge.


 10:37 am on May 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

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I have a site with 2 years old domain and the total pages are 10k.

But from last one month, i have observed sudden fall in pages. It came to 5k and daily it is decreasing.

So, any help or suggestion!

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 5:30 pm (utc) on May 12, 2009]


 8:29 pm on May 12, 2009 (gmt 0)

I see this happen about once or twice a year... big G does something funky in their processes, someone notices a drop in traffic, and everyone freaks out.

its the flow and ebb of SEO. it happens and will always happen.

did you think that your SEO tactics from 6 months ago would stay solid?

did you think you were going to be in the top 10 forever?

no one knows the real answer to the question, except the man behind the curtain, and unless you got ruby red slippers you aint getting past the walls....

this is where tests, and trial & error come into play.

this is where real sites, and real seo's show their worth.

obviously i will be the first to admit i do not know it all, but i do know that this is part of the web. its part of what we all do day in and day out....

start making some changes... tweak some pages and see what happens...

@venunath i gotta ask what in the world are you doing with 10k pages? do you think that anyone wants to swim through that much content?

trim down. lose some web weight.

thats the problem. content may be king, but too much content can kill the king too...

Martin Ice Web

 8:27 am on May 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

Since 4 weeks my users send by google dumped to 50%. Last week I got a letter from google, with the suggestion to apply google-adwords! I would get a 50 $ Donation! Good job!


 3:39 pm on May 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

great now my front page has been gone from google rankings for 3 days now, only searches like site: and domain name then i see my sites frontpage, so google must still be doing something.


 6:18 pm on May 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

< moved from another location >

My main keyword that draws the most traffic from search engines has increased by ~50% although I still rank second on Google.com

This jump happened in less than a week.

Either other Google extensions have pushed me up in ranking (I rank 5th for Google.de and ...)

Or more people decided to search for this particular keyword which I doubt, cause it has been pretty constant for months, and it is not related to the world news! ;)

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 6:30 pm (utc) on May 13, 2009]


 6:48 pm on May 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

How about changes in geo-targeting? There seem to be a number of reports the past few days that could be explained by showing at a high position in more locations - or in fewer locations.


 8:35 pm on May 13, 2009 (gmt 0)

I just got through dealing with a GEO-Targeting problem in Adwords Tedster. I just got back from vacation to find that a new client I set up before I left had only received a few impressions. I looked into it further and I wasn't seeing any of my ads showing up for any of my targeted keywords. The only thing I could think of was that fact that I was GEO targeting them, but I was well within the limits of my targeting area.

I remembered that I had tried using one of the pre-defined targeting areas that Google sets up for you (in my case the Orlando, Melbourne area) for the first time. Because it was the first tme I had used it I decided to revert back to GEO targeting by radius. This immediately fixed the problem as my ads started showing right away.

I started searching the forums to see if anyone else say something similar and I found your comment... Thought you might like to hear about my experience. Thanks for the confirmation...

Thanks - Saxman


 12:12 am on May 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

There's also a kind of geo-targeting for the purely organic search results, and not just for Adwords. That's more where my suspicions are falling right now - but Adwords may be caught up in this too.

Within any one country, such as the US or UK, there are many geographic zones that Google tailors that search results for, and there's no direct way for the webmaster to give input. At the country level, yes, but nothing more granular than that.

We're seeing comments recently like "my traffic jumped 50% but I see the same rankings". Or the other way around - "traffic falls off dramatically but rankings are the same." That's what's been pinging my spidey sense recently.


 1:50 am on May 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Just note with regards to my comment above. The site I referenced was hacked and a few thousand links were placed in a hidden layer.

Obviously my situation is a bit different than the rest of this discussion but I figured it was worth following up and confirming. Best of luck if you are having issues.


 8:17 am on May 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I experienced pages falling a year ago last May but they had recovered by the end of May.

I have also experienced a drop this May but it's only my newer pages that have seen the drop. My older pages are in the same position. I'm hoping that by the end of May the pages will have recovered.

It's as if Google is using its database from 6-8 months ago, when these pages were in those positions. Some of my pages that were in great positions 6-8 months ago but were not doing so great recently have gone back to the positions they were in 6-8 months ago.

The same thing happened in July 08 as well. I'll let you know if I recover by the end of May.


 2:17 pm on May 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

I am noticing some major fluctuations in a variety of sites I monitor this morning. Seems kind of odd..Anyone else noticing anything unusual


 3:04 pm on May 14, 2009 (gmt 0)

Anyone else noticing anything unusual

Just an awful lot of movement with major brand sites going up and down, and up and down, and up and down. Itís like they just canít seem to get it adjusted the way they want. Over the past few days they are a lot more up than down, even sites that were page 4 or 5, are now rising up to the first page.

This Vince thing kind of came and went discussion wise, but for the neighborhoods we hang in, itís been very significant, and seems to gaining steam.

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