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Strange acts of Google
Suvro




msg:3899261
 5:19 am on Apr 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi,

Google does strange things.

One of websites provides services in uk, us, ireland. We were ranking in the first and second pages for few of the keywords in Google.co.uk

In order to improve the rankings, I inserted a h1 tag with 2 of the most valid keywords. Google crawled the page after 5 days and now surprisingly the website has lost rankings for all the keywords in Google.co.uk. It does not even rank within the top 1000.

On the other hand, for Google.ie, the website has suddenly gained ranking from nowhere. A week back we did not figure in the top 500 listing in Google.ie and now we are in the top 15 for most keywords.

I do not think that Google.co.uk has penalized the website. Technically and by way of marketing tactics, the website does not has anything that should make Google frown upon.

These things do take place during some kind of algo update or so. I remember how the positions fluctuated during the big daddy update. But at present Google is not publicly updating.

It will be helpful if we can discuss upon this and find out reasons that may have led the website to disappear from Google.co.uk for search queries. However, it is still indexed there.

Thanks
Suvro

 

AnkitMaheshwari




msg:3899399
 9:27 am on Apr 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

Few questions:

Have you changed your hosting company recently?
What is the site TLD?

tedster




msg:3899817
 5:11 pm on Apr 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

These things do take place during some kind of algo update or so. I remember how the positions fluctuated during the big daddy update. But at present Google is not publicly updating.

Big Daddy was the last big public update. It brought Google a major change in their back end infrastructure - and in fact, it is that infrastructure itself that was nicknamed Big Daddy.

Because of that major change, Google no longer makes major all-at-once updates but instead they make small, incremental changes, almost every day. They tell us that some kind of algo change was made about 400 times in the past year. Some were more intense in their effect, and some were barely noticed. But you are safe to assume that updates are happeneing regularly.

Every month we dedicate a thread to watching the changes at Google, working to sort out what is happening. That thread for April is here: [webmasterworld.com...]

In addition, we offer a Hot Topics area [webmasterworld.com], which is always pinned to the top of this forum's index page. Many important discussions are linked from there. They may help you with ideas of what can happen and the reasons behind many ranking changes.

Slinger




msg:3900019
 10:20 pm on Apr 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

Suvro, I think that I have had this type of thing happen to me in the past. It should be no problem. G is not very smart. It saw your new <h1> tags and said "OH MY! he updated or changed his page! What a bad webmaster!

And so G tosses you out with the trash.

Its like your little change gets big G drunk.

Then in the morning (a week, maybe less), big G realizes what it did and pulls you back in the SERP's.

So, advice here is to do nothing.
Just wait and watch...

As Arnie said "YOU'LL BE BACK"

[edited by: Slinger at 10:22 pm (utc) on April 24, 2009]

Slinger




msg:3900020
 10:26 pm on Apr 24, 2009 (gmt 0)

2nd idea...

Suvro, I have had this type of thing happen to me in the past. It should be no problem. G is a bit jealous.

It saw your new <h1> tags and said "OH MY! someones been diddeling with my webpage! G is very possesive.

And so G breaks up with you.

Its like when a girl and guy break up. Very emotional time for G.

Then in a week, (maybe less), big G realizes what it did and pulls you back in the SERP's.

So, advice here is to do nothing.
Just wait and watch...

As they said in GHOST, "You had G at hello"

[edited by: Slinger at 10:27 pm (utc) on April 24, 2009]

dstiles




msg:3900650
 9:40 pm on Apr 25, 2009 (gmt 0)

We lost the home page for a UK (co.uk) site during the geo-location fiasco last year, in UK and world. A year later we still don't have the home page, even for unique text; another page with almost no text and total irrelevance rates instead. Ask for examplesite.com or example site and the home page comes up with six sub-topic links, so google certainly knows about it.

I would hesitate to say either the h1 tag was to blame OR that it will come back in a week or so.

I also hesitate to resubmit the site, having read a few bad experiences around here. :(

Suvro




msg:3903003
 7:27 am on Apr 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

Sorry for this late reply from my end.

My website is a .com domain and is hosted in US.

We used to rank well for some keywords in Google.co.uk. Additionally we were also targeting Ireland and other regions.

After we modified the h1 tags, as i mentioned, we lost rankings heavily in Google.co.uk.

On the other hand, we have started ranking within the top 10 for competitive keywords in Google.ie. A week back we were not there in the top 500 also in Google ie.

I have waited for roughly 2 weeks now and in the meantime GOogle has crawled the website twice. Still we do not see any improvement in Google.co.uk

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks and regards,
Suvro

dstiles




msg:3903617
 10:59 pm on Apr 29, 2009 (gmt 0)

Coincidentally the site I mentioned was Ireland-oriented. And google has a team in the Emerald Isle... Nah. Got to be coincidence! :)

I must check on google.ie to see what it's rating is there. Haven't done so as it's not aimed at the Ireland.

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