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How to be top 10 for a very competitive keyphrase?
Hyder_Ali

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3881548 posted 10:00 am on Mar 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi,

What normally you do if you want to bring your site in top 10 for a competitive keyphrase with and without location with competition of 1 crore. Have you done anything exceptionally where you had enhanced your site in top 10 for those competition. Do we ever come in google for those competition in top 10?
How many year we have to wait for that?

Thanks for your reply.

 

tedster

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Msg#: 3881548 posted 6:55 pm on Mar 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

You won't get there by waiting. It's not just a question about technical tricks these days. You need to build a solid web business that compares favorably with the current top ranked sites in many ways.

The most important factors?

1. Attract the same quality of natural backliinks that the current top-ranked sites have. So study the sites that are already top ten and analyze what they have done.

2. Powerful and well written content. You need to have a website that really is THE best place to go for information about that keyphrase.

3. Eliminate technical barriers to complete indexing. Study the threads in the Hot Topics area [webmasterworld.com], which is always pinned to the top of this forum's index page.

With today's Google there's no easy way to imitate quality just for the alogrithm. It's easier (but still not easy) to actually BE that quality.

[edited by: tedster at 8:56 pm (utc) on Mar. 30, 2009]

Shaddows

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Msg#: 3881548 posted 7:25 pm on Mar 30, 2009 (gmt 0)

With today's Google there's no easy way to imitate quality just for the alogrithm. It's easier (but still not easy) to actually BE that quality.

Tedster, sometimes you just blow me away

Hyder_Ali

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3881548 posted 5:50 am on Mar 31, 2009 (gmt 0)

Great Tedster, you blow me away also

[edited by: eelixduppy at 5:04 pm (utc) on Mar. 31, 2009]
[edit reason] typo [/edit]

raj1094

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3881548 posted 6:22 am on Mar 31, 2009 (gmt 0)

Hi getting in top 10 SERP results of 1 crore competition not required to wait for 1 year, you can achieve that in 2 to 3 months, by using all SEO techniques perfectly

internetheaven

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3881548 posted 7:28 am on Mar 31, 2009 (gmt 0)

Think of ranking as politics. If you want to be elected you have three options:

1. Be great.
2. Hire a PR company to make people think you're great.
3. Destroy your competition.

3 is much harder to do these days though not impossible and 2 often costs more than 1.

Best of luck
Mike

BillyS

WebmasterWorld Senior Member billys us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3881548 posted 12:47 pm on Mar 31, 2009 (gmt 0)

Ranking well for a competitive phrase means you need to beat the competition.

For example, it's easy enough to follow the lead of all the other high ranking sites - just do what they do and hope for the best. Well, as Tedster points out, that won't work.

But going that extra step or two to provide insights no one else has discovered is what will bring you quality links. At first you'll be found on long tail searches, but eventually you'll start to climb for your target phrase.

The key to ranking well on Google is to simply follow their guidelines. Create great (not good) content, natural links will follow, ranking will increase.

You'll find a lot of webmasters here that will criticize this advice as "old school." They've got ways to speed things up. I would say these same webmasters are often asking the question - "What happened to my ranking...?”

Google’s method is not a get rich quick approach. If you’re into throw away domains, then experiment and see if you can trick Google for a couple of months.

moftary

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3881548 posted 10:41 pm on Mar 31, 2009 (gmt 0)

One term I have always hated to read is "natural links".

Just think of it, you created the greatest page ever now what? If you promoted this page on relevant sites, this is an artificial link building. If you used link building techniques to speed up the process, this is even more artificial. AT LEAST, many artificial link campaigns or internet promotion must take place to give the new page a presence, then it might, depending on its quality and other factors, attract natural links.

So those who speak about "natural link building" from day one, do they really follow their own advice?

Finally, name me one site who dominates the serps for its keyword whose links are totally natural.

To answer the original thread starter, I would say the keys is 1) strong relevant links 2) high quality threaded contents 3) SEO innovative tricks

Cheers

BillyS

WebmasterWorld Senior Member billys us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3881548 posted 1:56 am on Apr 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

One term I have always hated to read is "natural links".

The OP has to figure out truth from fiction. And yes, there are people that follow their own advice.

And quite frankly I really don't care if anyone follows my advice. I choose to offer good advice, the community here can accept or reject it.

I also advocate experimenting if that helps. Just be prepared to throw the domain name away.

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