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How to remove two videos at #3 on regular SERPs?
Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 8:47 am on Oct 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

ok, i have searched a lot, but noone is talking about this new feature from Google. On the first Result-Page you will find on some data center on 3rd place 2 videos from any video source.

I have more then 90 videos placed so in the regular Search which are now shown on 3rd place on any regular Search with those terms i optimized for.

Now, i wanna know how can i delete them again or make them disappear again?

I have blocked the Bot to spider them with the robots.txt but this seams not to work, and i don't want them delete because there are very useful for my users.

i need some help on this.. the traffic is still the same, because they're not on all Data Center ... someone has any idea?

thanks
Reilly

[edited by: tedster at 10:01 am (utc) on Oct. 5, 2008]
[edit reason] fix formatting [/edit]

 

tedster

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 8:23 pm on Oct 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Have you tried the url removal tool in your Webmaster Tools account? Now that your robots.txt has a disallow rule, that should do it.

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 5:55 am on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

the problem is that those videos are associated with very high traffic pages, so i don't want them to remove, i need only to delete them for Google Video, but i have them hosted on my site.

for example: example.com/city.html <-- high traffic page

and on this page is the *.swf file which is exclude by robots.txt and
on subdomain.example.com/city.flv is the video which is also excluded by robots.txt.

all excluded but always shown in regular serp's and on google video.

i have no idea how i can tell google not to show my videos...

tedster

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 6:16 am on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

You might try submitting the .swf or .flv url, instead of the html page's url.

The language during the removal process is a bit fuzzy about "page" and "url", and I've never removed a video url so I cannot assure you how it will go, but it's worth a try.

I don't want my video to appear in Google Video search results. What do I do?

...Other third-party site. If you uploaded your video to any other site, please have that site's webmaster follow the instructions in our removal information for webmasters page.

Once the webmaster has removed the video from the Web or blocked it from being included in our index, our search results will automatically reflect this change after we crawl the site again.

[video.google.com...]


Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 7:48 am on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

ok, so i have to include the subdomain where the videos are on to my Google Webmaster Tools Account and then i have to remove the *.swf and the *.flv ? - ok i will try it immediately and let you know if it worked.

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 6:16 pm on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

ok, WMT is telling that the videos are removed, but i see them still in the regular results - any other idea? how i can get rid of it? it is driving me crazy - i need to make them disappear in any way...

is there noone who has seen this results with this 2 videos on 3rd serp position?

i need a technique to get rid of it also from the google video search ...

tedster

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 10:57 pm on Oct 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

There's been a decent amount of chatter around the web about Google going to two videos in some spots. But most webmasters are happy to see their videos show up ;)

Are you sure that the tool reported removal already? That would be extremely fast. Usually I see those requests stay in "pending" for a few days. At any rate, I've heard that processing video files takes Google a bit longer that regular html urls, so I'd give it a few more days before assuming it didn't work.

Alternative approaches:

1. Change the filename and the embed/object tag that references it. At the very same time, start out with the new file name in your robots.txt file.

2. Use an X-Robots-Tag in the server's http header for your video files. If you're on Apache, you could add this to your .htaccess file:

<Files ~ "\.(swfflv)$">
Header append x-robots-tag "noindex"
</Files>

See Google Blog [googleblog.blogspot.com] for more.

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 5:46 am on Oct 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

thanks tedster,
i will wait another 2 days, i hope they will disappear then , if not i will try your suggestions... the removal tool was really fast, but they do appear in google video search and also in the regular search results.

the last action will be to change the embed tag and the reference file in the swf file, but before i will try the .htaccess file

thanks so much tedster
Reilly

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 6:05 am on Oct 8, 2008 (gmt 0)


<Files ~ "\.(swfflv)$">
Header append x-robots-tag "noindex"
</Files>

i tried this but my apache returns always a 500 error... i ask me why they do appear still in Google Video Search although i have excluded them by removal tool and also with the robots.txt

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 6:49 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

ok, a half of the videos are gone in Google Video Search, but still in Google Regular Search... The Problem is also, that the Videos were doubled indexed in Google Video Search - so i hope Google get rid of them... If that all doesn't work - i will change embeded URL and also the FLA URL - so Google find a 404 Error and will deindex them. But i'm going crazy - why does it takes so long - also the Bot doesn't appear in Log-Files ... any suggestions?

[edited by: Reilly at 7:16 am (utc) on Oct. 11, 2008]

tedster

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 1:47 pm on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's only been five days since you made the removal request - that is not overly long. Google is not like a desktop database or even like a monster enterprise database. It's an immense collection of data, sharded over hundreds of thousands of computers, and that data is continually in flux.

You've seen the beginnings of your request taking effect - even though it involves video files which have been reported to be a slower thing. Things sound like they are moving ahead to me.

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 6:20 am on Oct 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

ok, another week passed and nothing is happening - it seem to me that it will take ultra long - i have now renamed the files so Google gets an 404 Error ... looking how long it takes now - but i think they will not delete my videos from Google Video Search and i think also from regular Search and i do not know why ? i have done all they has requested - i excluded them by the WMT removal tool and also by robots.txt - the Googlebot got already the new robots.txt but that videos are still shown... that's the first time that i do not know what to do else to get this damn videos out of the regular search and Google Video Search.

night707

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 5:18 pm on Oct 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Reilly,

perhaps Tedster might be able to advise on a "noindex" + redirect construction to send the traffic where it might make more sense for users.

tedster

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 6:44 pm on Oct 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

If I understand this idea correctly, it would only work if you cloaked the redirect so it only applied to visitors from Google Search. I wouldn't advise that.

This is the first example we've seen here of the slowness of Google Video search to change - although I've read about it elsewhere around the web. I'll certainly remember it for the future.

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 6:10 am on Oct 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

i think the problem is another - for example - i have some videos in Google Video Search which have 2 names - an old Video Title
<video:title>Name1</video:title>and a newer one, and Google think that are 2 diffrent videos - and eachtime i submitted a video-sitemap to change the Title, Description and so on Google thought it would another video - i think they have problems to identify exactly the videos. By one Keyword there are shown 2 videos on Google Search which are the same. Also, there i changed 6 month or so the embed tag <video:player_loc allow_embed="no"> from yes to no - and the changes still do not reflect in Google Video Search and more then 6 month passed, that's horrible. I blocked all with robots.txt and i renamed also the files so Google gets an 404 error - there is nothing i can do more. I hope it will work - but how long will it take? Only Google knows.
Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 8:10 am on Oct 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

the edit-time passed, sorry for double post, i want say that i got a shock while i was deleting some videos - Google Video is hosting some videos on there own server - after i delete the video *.flv and also *.swf - the video is still available - #*$!?

night707

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 5:52 pm on Oct 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

... Google Video is hosting some videos on there own server ...

hm, that reads doubtful

Tedster,

the idea was using .htaccess to direct to the preferred file in case Google is indexing some file against "noindex" a.o. expressed desires.

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 9:20 am on Oct 21, 2008 (gmt 0)

ok, i renamed all files, blocked all, removed all with WMT - the only thing i can do now is wait and hope Google will recognize that ... looking how long it takes - in a few days the first month passed...

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 6:03 pm on Oct 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

another week passed and still no luck ... damn, how long will it take? it drives me crazy...

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 7:08 pm on Nov 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

another week and nothing... anyone any idea what i can do ?

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 7:06 am on Nov 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

another week and nothing happens - how many posts will that thread be? i'm going in holiday for one week - i hope something will happen then - but this is to me ridiculious or how it is written ... i'm waiting already so long and Google does nothing... that's frustrating...

Reilly

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Msg#: 3759033 posted 2:25 pm on Nov 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

ok, today after 2 month, i got the first reaction from Google themself, my videos are still indexed and nothing happens but i got an answer from Google that they gonna fix that problem as soon as possible... you can't imagine how happy i am that Google talked to me... and many thanks to Tedster who told me where to place my posting...

Thanks so much
Reilly

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