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Google toolbar PR Update - 27 September, 2008

 3:42 am on Sep 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

I am seeing a toolbar PR update going on right now.
Weird thing is that it has only been a couple of month since the green bar has moved in the last update. Not that am unhappy with that I actually wish if TBPR updates are weekly or something!




 4:28 pm on Oct 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

It would be interesting to see how many that took a major hit have a links directory on their site or all of their outbounds concentrated in one area of the site, similar to a directory.


 5:49 pm on Oct 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Our main site went from 6 to 4, and just about every page on it got hit with -2. It's 9 years old, great original content, no paid links.

To answer pageone, we don't have a links directory, but we did recently put in a page with links to categories of our widgets, so now every page on the site links to a page with about 400 internal links to stuff like "widgets blessed by the pope."

The other change we made was adding a mobile version of our site. No one has been able to explain to me how Google handles duplicate content issues when m.example.com has the same content in mobile form as example.com.


 6:19 pm on Oct 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

If you submit a mobile xml sitemap to Google, they seem to sort it out just fine. See [webmasterworld.com...]


 10:40 pm on Oct 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

It would be interesting to see how many that took a major hit have a links directory on their site or all of their outbounds concentrated in one area of the site, similar to a directory.

Yes, that sounds like me. I have a special page with about 50 links to other sites that offer related content which I know my visitors will find useful. Google even went as far as to give me a sitelink for it which says "links". This page has a PR of 3 and gets a lot of Google traffic.

Some of the links are stale as this page has not been updated for a year or two.

How should I handle this page now? It is very useful to my community.
Delete it or update it?


 3:27 am on Oct 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I just cleaned up and found over half a dozen links to expired domains.
No wonder Google was cranky with my site.


 7:42 am on Oct 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

It would be interesting to see how many that took a major hit have a links directory on their site or all of their outbounds concentrated in one area of the site, similar to a directory.

I didn't take a hit but here is a small observation.

Two Joomla sites, one domain five years old - it has a small Links directory (native, not an extension), say about 10 links.

The newer one has about 25 links in total -- not a heavyweight directory. This one prominently labelled "Links" was greybarred in all its links pages only. The older one was called something else and shows PR down to the individual listings. This is new PR as the site was converted to Joomla about three months ago.

A PowerSeek-based directory I was involved with some years ago lost its PR completely a year ago and later it recovered only for the home page. With this update, PR has flowed back to the listings.


 8:43 pm on Oct 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

rollback today. do not recall ever seeing this.


 8:47 pm on Oct 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

rollback today. do not recall ever seeing this.

Not noticing this..Still sticking here.


 9:47 pm on Oct 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

rollback today. do not recall ever seeing this.

Neither do I really


 9:10 am on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

One site of mine had fallen from PR6 to 5 in 2007's ranking update. On September 27 it went to 6 for 2 days then back to 5. This morning back to 6. Is this really a rollback, or just reassignment once again?

This is an all static HTML site of 200 web pages, no paid links.


 1:31 pm on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

Confirming a rollback.


 4:09 pm on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

Well, we spent all last weekend (from about 9/25 - 9/29) fixing links, and asking other sites that had added extra (affiliate) links to return them to straight links, not affiliate links. The PR is still down one, from 5 where it had been for about a year to 4. I can live with that. The traffic finally came back last Tuesday. Pretty harrowing.


 4:32 pm on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have noticed on some of my sites that the PR of the pages, both the home page and the inner pages went up but then went back to their original PR.

Someone above mentioned a rollback. Can anyone think of why the pageranks would increase and then sent back to their original?

After the PR update, did Google decide to emphasize the onpage SEO more and was the rollback a result of that?


 5:40 pm on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

It would be interesting to see how many that took a major hit have a links directory on their site or all of their outbounds concentrated in one area of the site, similar to a directory.

One of my sites has a directory, about 80 pages of links layed out like the yahoo directory - even regional links. The main directory page is titled "(subject) Directory and Resources - International (subject) information." Filename is (subject)-directory-and-resources.blah. The main directory page has been greybarred. It does exist in the index though. All internal pages in the directory have not changed their green PR. The main page used to return #1 for...
(subject) Directory
(subject) Resources
(subject) Directory and Resources

Now instead of the main directory page, inner pages are returned a few spots down for these searches. #3 in the SERPs. Searching for the exact title pops up the main page as #1, but it is the only search I can find that actually returns the main directory page.

All outgoing links on these pages are related, get checked weekly and have been submitted to the directory free of charge. No paid links, all hand checked before inclusion.


 11:10 pm on Oct 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

Two of my sites rolling back today.

PR0 --> PR3 --> PR0
PR5 --. PR4 --> PR5


 2:24 am on Oct 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Looks as if Google maybe planning to use PR in the search results very soon...

This is the googledotcom description when searched for:

Enables users to search the Web, Usenet, and images. Features include PageRank, caching and translation of results, and an option to find similar pages.


 6:00 pm on Oct 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Has anyone noticed PR changed yesterday to before the update, changed later yesterday to after the update, and I have seen something similar today.


 2:17 pm on Oct 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

More movement today. Our homepage went from 4 to 3, when it was previously a 6. Something is wacky, because this page is definitely not a 3.


 4:56 pm on Oct 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Our home page had gone from page 1 #3 (for a couple of years), to #35 now to #51. The results that are appearing ahead of ours these days are not relevant to the searched term once you click through to view...very strange indeed.

If this is how the PR is effecting search, it's going to be harder to find what we are really looking for in Google.


 7:04 am on Oct 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

Mine has just gone from 4 to 2, -2 for the whole site! no effect in search results yet. In my industry (online games) most sites have lots of links going out.

Pass the Dutchie

 10:41 am on Oct 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

"Small directory sites definitely showing greybar on actual listing pages wherever I look. Big directories that don't pass PR seem untouched."

Yea, seen this across 100's of directories. Most of which are off th rack directories, request a links for a link, or request a featured paid link. Larger directories remain unchanged.

We have three directories which show grey bar on 20% of pages but not all. We have tried to disguise these directories for fear of such an update. Hope that we have done enough but this does not look good for those that make a living off this sort of thing.


 10:21 pm on Oct 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

My decent site, about 200 pages has gone down over the last year from 5 to 4 to 3 now to 2. A 5 page website I've just done for my tennis club with about three inward links has no page rank except a PR of two for it's news page. This page consists of just three links to pdf downloadable newsletters and nothing else!


 12:20 am on Oct 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

loversinc- Did you make any changes to your site in the last month or so that could have caused this?

Another thing I noticed on our site: we have an alphabetical browse on every page, which we recently cleaned up with titles and meta tags, so the page for "S" would read "List of widgets beginning with S."


 4:10 am on Oct 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

This is starting to look like a glitch!

My homepage which I reported as showing a 0 has now returned to PR 3. However, a popular internal page is now showing a zero when previously with this update it acquired PR 3. A deeper level page linking from this one has also gone from 3 to 0.

All other important pages are showing a 3. Before the update, they were all a 2 - so this is not a roll-back.

As I reported here, I made some changes to the HP 5 days ago - deleting a questionable outgoing link and also deleted some links to expired domains on my directory page . But from what we know of TBPR updates, this would be too soon to have any affect...or perhaps things have changed with TBPR reporting?


 7:50 am on Oct 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think there is some glitch here as well.

My one page PR6 site was banned on the day of the TBPR update. A week later it is back in the index with grey toolbar. Today it is back to PR6 and it's not a rollback since my other sites still have their post-pr-update values.


 7:56 am on Oct 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have a widget niche directory site which went from PR3 to PR0 in Google's latest toolbar PR update. All of the inner category pages which ranged from PR1 to PR2 dropped to PR0 or gray bar. They all remain indexed in Google and all remain listed in Google Webmaster Tools.

I do not sell links nor do I require reciprocal links. I clearly state that I manually review every submission and reject those sites which do not meet my standards. Since I thoroughly checked out the sites I accepted into my directory I made a practice of do follow.

I have never paid for any links. My backlinks consist of links from other directories and few reciprocal links with whose pageranks ranged from PR1 to PR4. Checking out my backlinks after this latest toolbar PR update I found that 99% of the directories I was in had dropped to PR0.

I guess itís time to start buying links (in the stealth mode of course) to raise my PR and out of paranoia I have also added rel=nofollow to all outgoing links...sigh.


 9:14 am on Oct 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

I just had a roll back on one of my other sites' main category pages that consisted of 100 links listed in alphabetical order. It dropped from a PR3 to gray bar in the latest toolbar PR update. It's now back to PR3 again.


 1:15 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

I am seeing another backlink update. Anyone?


 1:23 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Backlink update is happening, seems to be going - though for most sites


 1:32 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yes, today a page on one of my sites that had recovered its PR3 last night is once again gray bar. Its backlinks have not changed though.


 4:26 am on Oct 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have that feeling that another TBPR update is coming very soon.

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