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It seems a bit soon but I see a PR update
wrkalot




msg:3729427
 1:42 pm on Aug 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

It seems like the toolbar PR was updated a short time ago yet I'm seeing a shift down for one of my sites this morning.

Anyone else? I wonder if these visible PR updates are going to be more frequent that they use to be?

 

webastronaut




msg:3729535
 6:31 pm on Aug 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yes, some sites of mine that went to white bar accross the board last Oct. now have all page rank back. Serp positions have never changed by the way.

Thaparian




msg:3729544
 6:54 pm on Aug 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

I see a white bar for two of my new sites.

g1smd




msg:3729553
 7:18 pm on Aug 23, 2008 (gmt 0)

Is that penalties lifting? That was mentioned as going to happen.

webastronaut




msg:3729737
 2:35 am on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think I was being penalized for the way I have my out going links as "do follow" and I believe that these penalties were finally lifted. So looks like to me that this was a very slow PR update as nobody is responding to this thread. My niche(s) must be some of the last to see the penalty lift from "visible PR". ?

I still have the same "do follow outbound links" but I have never had that many as they are only links to help the user (I have never worried about PR leaks or designed a site to gain Google PR).

No serp changes as these sites stay at the top for major keyword phrases including "site links".

But this visible PR update is for real happening right now in a few niches that I'm checking.

trinorthlighting




msg:3729749
 3:35 am on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

I saw back links change today on one of our sites.

eltercerhombre




msg:3729756
 3:54 am on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

It looks like a PR penalty lifting. At least this happened to one of my sites which sold links. No change on my white hat sites.

wrkalot




msg:3729904
 12:22 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's unclear if it is "penalty lifting" related. The site when from PR 2 down to 1. It's an ecomm site, little less that one year old, and very few IB links (it has no outbound links).

Another site I have was penalized for a long time and started to come back a couple of weeks ago... visible PR on this site is seeing no change.

BL's have bounced around a bit as well.

night707




msg:3729915
 1:19 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Here it also looks like a PR penalty lifting. One site was sent down to 2 and is back again at 4. No changes had been made over years. Only steady, organic inbound links.

All other sites remained on the previous PR.

con771




msg:3729930
 2:36 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

What is everyone seeing with this update? My sites haven't gained at all. We went from 4 to 3 a couple of weeks ago and haven't bounced back.

g1smd




msg:3729956
 4:20 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

I haven't seen any changes. I merely asked a (rhetorical) question of those that have.

robzilla




msg:3730071
 11:06 pm on Aug 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

Not seeing any new PR on 'recently' (July) added pages.

g1smd




msg:3730282
 9:21 am on Aug 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

There is no such thing as "do follow".

There's a rel="no follow" attribute, and there are links without it.

malcolmcroucher




msg:3730298
 9:56 am on Aug 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

i got a white bar for my new site

nomis5




msg:3730367
 12:10 pm on Aug 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

No changes to the PR on my sites.

Pico_Train




msg:3730721
 6:47 pm on Aug 25, 2008 (gmt 0)

nofollow not no follow ... isn't it?

trinorthlighting




msg:3730974
 1:14 am on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Our sites that had changes were white hat. They were all ecom sites with no penalties. Rankings are the same as they always have been.

jim1955




msg:3731759
 6:18 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi there,

I'm new to things SEO but this seems very strange. 8 out of the top 10 sites for some of our most used keywords have Zero PR. White Bar on all 8 top listed sites.

Not to mention our number 1, 2 and or 3 ranked pages have all fallen off to #20 to #30 in ranking.

tedster




msg:3731770
 6:35 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

hello Jim - welcome to the forums.

White Bar on all 8 top listed sites.

Now that is very strange. Sounds a lot like some kind of buggy data, especially because you are seeing a white bar and not a gray one.

jim1955




msg:3731799
 6:57 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yep, here's a break down of the reported PR of the top 10 listed sites. There is one Gray Bar, and the one site that's PR 4/10 is in the UK. I'm in Chicago.

1. White Bar
2. White Bar
3. 1/10
4. White Bar
5. White Bar
6. 4/10
7. Gray Bar
8. White Bar
9. 1/10
10. White Bar

[edited by: tedster at 7:18 pm (utc) on Aug. 26, 2008]

g1smd




msg:3731804
 7:02 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yeah, it is rel="nofollow" - no space.

All this junk talk about "do follow" has scrambled my brain.

tedster




msg:3731834
 7:23 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

Jim, I've thought some more and those white bars may not imply buggy PR data at all - depending on the situation.

One way is if the search term does not show many total results (say 6 figures or less) and the results that Google does return are internal urls rather than home pages/domain roots. At any rate, it should give you hope that you can compete well to see all those white bars in the SERPs.

watercrazed




msg:3731992
 11:42 pm on Aug 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

I had a blog go from pr 4 to 5 but still bouncing back and forth a bit

CainIV




msg:3732086
 2:46 am on Aug 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

There was a minor update. I believe it was to formerly penalized sites. I have a client who had outbound links on his homepage that were obviously mistaken for sold links (he doesn't sell links) but he got demoted last update, and his pages just now got pagerank within the last two weeks.

jim1955




msg:3732428
 2:49 pm on Aug 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

There was a minor update. I believe it was to formerly penalized sites

I'm going to keep a wait and see attitude for now, but, if this is an update that's going to last it's not a minor one. We use a very popular php driven shipping cart and Google used to love our cart's pages. Now they're gone! We still have good ranking on our older static pages. But the money pages have dropped 20-30 spots.

tedster




msg:3732499
 3:53 pm on Aug 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

Jim, your talking about actual search rankings - that's not the same thing as PageRank.

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