tedster

msg:3718697 | 5:36 pm on Aug 8, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Google often seems to run tests based on the user's browser - so that paat doesn't surpise me. But the idea of pushing Adwords below the top of the page is very interesting. I'll be watching for that one!
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tedster

msg:3718703 | 5:40 pm on Aug 8, 2008 (gmt 0) |
I did just find a result like this, but it's NOT Adwords listings below position #3, it's Google Shopping results (Google Products plus a dedicated Google Checkout search.) To my knowledge that's not sponsored results, only Adwords is. Is this the same as what you're seeing? That position is a spot where Google does a lot of testing using their Universal Search infrastructure. There are still 10 organic listings on the page - in addition to Adwords at the top and right plus Shopping below #3
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StaceyJ

msg:3718772 | 6:57 pm on Aug 8, 2008 (gmt 0) |
| I did just find a result like this, but it's NOT Adwords listings below position #3, it's Google Shopping results (Google Products plus a dedicated Google Checkout search.) |
| I've been seeing this same thing the last few days, too, tedster. Thought it was odd, and it always seems to be position 3 or 4, but I wasn't paying that close attention to which spot, but will now.
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tedster

msg:3718777 | 7:03 pm on Aug 8, 2008 (gmt 0) |
It's an interesting experiment. As I observed in another thread, I wonder if Adwords clicks will go up when the Shopping results are not in direct competition for the visitors' attention.
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Propools

msg:3718782 | 7:13 pm on Aug 8, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Yeah, tester that's what I'm seeing too.
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webastronaut

msg:3718795 | 7:36 pm on Aug 8, 2008 (gmt 0) |
I've been seeing this too. I have a site that is ranking #3 for an important keyword and my click through stats are down from normal so this morning I checked at Google and sure enough shopping results below me with Google checkout. People seem to be clicking that and not me as much as normal.
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tedster

msg:3718838 | 8:23 pm on Aug 8, 2008 (gmt 0) |
Ok - note that I've changed the thread title to make the topic clearer.
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Marcia

msg:3719019 | 1:29 am on Aug 9, 2008 (gmt 0) |
I'm now seeing it also on some searches. So in other words, they're now directly competing with sites listed in organic search by inserting their own shopping links into it, for sites that accept Google Checkout as payment. Matt Cutts refers to editorial (organic) vs. paid search and says they want to keep it editorial. I don't call inserting their own links exactly editorial. Think about what kind of a fuss would be raised if Yahoo - or Heaven forbid! - OMG what if Micro$oft did that in their search results.
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tripleox

msg:3720197 | 11:13 am on Aug 11, 2008 (gmt 0) |
System: The following message was spliced on to this thread from: http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3720332.htm [webmasterworld.com] by engine - 3:58 pm on Aug. 11, 2008 (utc +1)
I've just spotted on Google.co.uk that Google Product's listing are appearing lower than their usual position above the natural listings. For the searches i ran they are appearing in position 4 (or 3rd if you include a double domain listing). On Google.com it's also changed but for some terms the listings appear in their original position.
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