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PageRank Update July 2008... The green bar is moving!
Atomic

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 9:04 pm on Jul 24, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing new page rank numbers across several sites! So far it looks like I'm gaining PR across the board.

 

Whitey

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 2:03 am on Jul 31, 2008 (gmt 0)

5 days of grey bars where previous green ones occurred on some of our sites which are under filter penalties . The top 2 levels have increased 1 place.

Should i be concerned ?

Lorel

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 2:39 am on Jul 31, 2008 (gmt 0)

I agree that this looks like an across the board drop in PR (as it has in the past). Those that have been aggressively gathering links might have kept the same PR or even increased it.

PR doesn't have to drop a whole point to prove this is a PR drop. PR 5 could be actually PR 5.1 to PR 5.9. If Google dropped PR across the board by .5 then a PR 5.9 would still look like a PR 5 whereas a PR 5.2 would have dropped to a PR 4.7 or PR 4 in the toolbar.

Atomic

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 5:02 am on Jul 31, 2008 (gmt 0)

My PR went up and I spend approximately zero time gathering links.

From where I am standing it's an increase across the board. I'm not saying I didn't acquire links. I'm just saying the that I do nothing to encourage or discourage the linking.

Perhaps we're looking at two different boards.

TerrCan123

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 6:16 am on Jul 31, 2008 (gmt 0)

With all of the trillion pages now maybe Google should round up PR so a 4.6 is a 5 and a 5.6 is a 6.

If they don't then when they have another trillion pages few sites will probably rank over a 4.

Nuttakorn

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 4:36 pm on Jul 31, 2008 (gmt 0)

What do your think PRTB will be effect to SERPs?

signor_john



 
Msg#: 3706679 posted 5:14 pm on Jul 31, 2008 (gmt 0)

My PR went up and I spend approximately zero time gathering links.

Same here. Home page is up from 5 to 6, and a check of inside pages (several levels down) suggests that many or most have jumped to the next higher PR number. Not that it really matters: I'm not aware of any wholesale changes in rankings or traffic from Google Search.

Question for speculative discussion: Is it possible that the green bar now shows something other than pure, unadulterated, "Anatomy of a Search Engine"-style PageRank?

stevelibby

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 3:23 pm on Aug 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

i have just noticed a few of my sites have lost 1 in the pr today

glenv

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 12:08 pm on Aug 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have several wordpress sites. One remained at a PR5 and another edu wordpress climbed to PR5. My question: I notice that all categories in all wordpress sites are now gray bar for the PR. I do not block search from spidreing the categories. Any ideas why only the home pages are receiving PR?

bilalseo

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 12:28 pm on Aug 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

yes i dropped from PR3 to PR2. I got PR3 in last algo update i.e. on 30th june, 2008 and just after few months I dropped again.

tedster

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 2:29 pm on Aug 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Any ideas why only the home pages are receiving PR?

Here's my thinking. Only a white bar means PR 0 (really between 0 and 1). A gray bar means "no data available on the PR server". In other words, in a gray bar situation the toolbar-using public cannot SEE whether PR is there or not, but that url may still have PR on Google's back end.

In some cases, studying PR for an entire section of a site certainly seems to indicate that there is still PR power circulating through gray bar urls.

potentialgeek

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 7:41 pm on Aug 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

My PR5 just went to PR4 but still seems to have the old PR5 perks (quick revisits and development respect).

p/g

Whitey

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 6:03 am on Aug 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

In some cases, studying PR for an entire section of a site certainly seems to indicate that there is still PR power circulating through gray bar urls.

It could mean that, but could it also mean that PR has been frozen from those grayed out URL's?

I'm looking at one site that has "grayed out" TBPR for over a year on some of it's URL's , and one that with this recent update , showing TBPR from level 3 down as "gray".

Another thought going through my head is, could Google negate the strength for "ranking purposes" of the higher URL's with the grayed out URL's and force results into "ceilings" [ ie page 2 / 3 / 4 per the old minus penalties ].

Plausible or not ?

adrianTNT

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 12:00 am on Aug 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Dropped from PR8 to PR7 :( // for my main site

minnapple

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 2:09 am on Aug 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have a few blogspot properties, that are no longer [ for more than a month ] included in google's index, that still hold their PR [ page rank toolbar ].
Look's as if google is handling their own properties different at least in toolbar display.

Whitey

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 9:31 am on Aug 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

5 days of grey bars where previous green ones occurred on some of our sites which are under filter penalties . The top 2 levels have increased 1 place.

Should i be concerned ?

Nearly 10 days of gray bars now. I am concerned.

One thing i noticed, is that on sites that could be having issues, the TBPR distribution appears to be responding only to pages with IBL's.

WMT shows identical distribution of TBPR to sites that have the "green" bar. Not sure if this is reliable though.

signor_john



 
Msg#: 3706679 posted 2:58 pm on Aug 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Nearly 10 days of gray bars now. I am concerned.

I've noticed that it can take a while for the green bar to display these days (I opened one of my pages just now and waited 19 seconds for the grey bar to be replaced by the PR gauge.)

Whitey

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 3:28 am on Aug 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

waited 19 seconds for the grey bar to be replaced by the PR gauge

I've not heard of this ... i thought it was instant. Often when i load a page the TBPR loads before the page itself.

giggle

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 4:34 am on Aug 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think that the toolbar waits for the last image to be displayed before showing itself. So if your pages takes 19 seconds to fully load then that's when the toolbar will be loaded.

At least that's how it appears to work in FF3.

khucthuydu

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 12:35 pm on Aug 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

nothing happening in VIETNAM yet.

Miamacs

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 1:02 pm on Aug 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

IE loads TBPR first...
FF loads TBPR last.

...

Or so it seems.

firefoxin

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 7:00 pm on Aug 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Dropped from PR6 to PR5 :(

Whitey

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 6:22 am on Aug 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

15 days and some gray bars are disappearing, but only a few.

Does the data export really take this long .... nobody seems concerned from my previous posts, so am I to assume that this is a "non " issue?

tedster

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Msg#: 3706679 posted 3:43 pm on Aug 10, 2008 (gmt 0)

I've seen juggling and jiggling for weeks after the intial changes start rolling out. The PR data export is a very low priority item for Google. Matt Cutts said that they consider it a "non-event".

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