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New Search Box Under Sitelinks
lookingatit




msg:3591002
 5:19 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Anyone else seeing a search box underneath the sitelinks on .co.uk just search microsoft. Is this just goog testing or will everyone with sitelinks get one?

 

Robert Charlton




msg:3591035
 5:37 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Don't see that here in the US, but Microsoft is probably a special case. Google already has a "dedicated" search available for Microsoft...

[google.com...]

Google may be testing this searchbox as a way of seeing whether searchers looking for Microsoft might benefit from having the Microsoft search right there.

Robert Charlton




msg:3591039
 5:38 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

PS: Without getting specific, are you seeing this extra search box also on other searches?

lookingatit




msg:3591045
 5:41 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

yes seeing it when I search for tfl transport for london. only .co.uk though.

Moderator note: TFL (Transport for London) is an OK example, as it's a government agency. Let's leave other specific company names out of this discussion, except for very large well-known companies like Amazon. We can discuss examples by size, though.

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 6:22 pm (utc) on Mar. 4, 2008]

tedster




msg:3591103
 6:46 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Someone just sent me another screen shot example - Altavista. I haven't seen it yet.

lookingatit




msg:3591121
 7:06 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

It was also there for a large online UK bank. However it's not showing now, but i'm under a different IP and possibly a different data center.

When you used the search box it displayed all relevant indexed results for the domain within google.

Interesting...

dimmer




msg:3591248
 9:12 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Just seen it on a large UK department store, did a search on my own site PR 3 some 40k plus pages in the index and its not on that.

It does look a little perculiar on the normal Google serps

A horizontal ad link to the site followed by what would be their normal serp result with 8 sitelinks then underneath a windows style textbox with a ruddy great big grey windows button entitled searcgh www.examplesite.com. It looks really tacky and not very google.

dimmer




msg:3591250
 9:15 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Just tried the link

The results are actually
example search :www.examplesite.com

Image results! first

Rlilly




msg:3591255
 9:19 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

It coming up for a lot of sites for me from my DC: Nasa, Wikipedia, United Nations, Whitehouse, MIT....

eltercerhombre




msg:3591262
 9:32 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing this also and, to be true, I find it usefull.

The fact is that I do not like the idea of giving more real state to the first result, but if has to be like these, just for really important sites, I think is an improvement for the average joe.

man in poland




msg:3591264
 9:33 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Looks horrid. Google was all about clean, simple design and clear results. That's what allowed them to kill the competition originally. This sort of thing looks like a big step backwards to me - the sort of thing, actually, which might give an 'upstart' new search engine great encouragement that Google could eventually meet real competition - probably from a simple engine doing what Google did originally so well, before the accountants stepped in!

youfoundjake




msg:3591500
 1:50 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I am seeing it here in California, same query with the first example.

skipfactor




msg:3591518
 2:06 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

As a user I think I like it. As a Google Custom Search client I'm not exactly thrilled. From an SEO perspective, talk about authority-looking to the average Joe...

phranque




msg:3591523
 2:23 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

strange nobody has mentioned the obvious.
seems as if this is going to kill site search functions and (cough) greatly expand the google search network...

Robert Charlton




msg:3591647
 7:09 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

It will affect some site search functions, but I don't know that it will be a significant change. It's a change for a certain kind of search.

To get the search box, you need to search for the company/ organization/ or agency name, or the domain name with the tld, not always the way you'd enter a site.

Also, this only seems to be affecting very large or very high traffic sites, and definitely not all of them. Eg, irs.gov gets a box, albeit site:irs.gov shows only about 69,000 pages.

On the other hand, site:webmasterworld.com shows roughly 3.2 million pages, and doesn't get a search box.

site:un.org shows roughly 2.3 million pages, and does, as noted above, get a box.

But there are many major corporations and ecommerce sites with page counts in the millions that don't show up.

For Microsoft in the US, which, as noted, does return a box, site:microsoft.com shows some 16-million pages.

steveb




msg:3591653
 7:27 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

This is a slippery slope, unless the companies are hand selected. irs.gov may deserve a special box for an IRS search, but favoring widgets.com over widgets.net or example.com/widgets/ is lame.

Robert Charlton




msg:3591658
 7:41 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

This is a slippery slope...

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you... but just to play devil's advocate here, is this any more slippery than Sitelinks? You could almost describe this as Sitelinks on steroids.

potentialgeek




msg:3591695
 9:22 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's a natural evolution SiteLinks and "More Results from [this site]."

Plus Google already offered Site Search on websites. It's like taking it off the sites and putting it back on Google.com.

Clean enough format. Very simple and efficient. It's better than "More Results from [this site]."

+1

p/g

Bones




msg:3591697
 9:28 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

But there are many major corporations and ecommerce sites with page counts in the millions that don't show up.

It does seem a bit random. I imagine that qualification is (at least partly) based on some actual site traffic data, either gathered from Analytics, the toolbar and/or search queries.

As a user I like it, but I'm not convinced that showing this for queries such as "Altavista" is appropriate. "Search altavista.com" doesn't really produce the results that I think most users would expect when they hit the button.

Reilly




msg:3591741
 10:32 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

i do not see anything :(

[edited by: tedster at 6:30 pm (utc) on Mar. 5, 2008]

steveb




msg:3591795
 11:27 am on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

"is this any more slippery than Sitelinks"

Sitelinks are far worse at this point, because they don't just appear for brand names. example.com can get sitelinks for a "widgeting" search when there are innumerable other sites covering widgeting as well or better.

Errioxa




msg:3591855
 1:13 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

@Reilly you must do it at google.com and english language and search nasa

Reilly




msg:3591865
 1:39 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

someone send me already a picture - i need that sitesearch too - i think they use it for large sites...

thanks

bateman_ap




msg:3591936
 2:44 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

To get the search box, you need to search for the company/ organization/ or agency name, or the domain name with the tld, not always the way you'd enter a site.

Nope, I can see it for a quite generic term, think "blue widgets". My site comes up first, will see if it increases traffic, will be quite easy to spot, just look for site: in the logs.

lookingatit




msg:3591947
 3:06 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's currently showing under this datacenter 72.14.207.99 when searching for wikipedia, but this time it's not showing the sitelinks just the search box.

lookingatit




msg:3591962
 3:32 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

It may be to do with the replacement of the link "More Results from [this site]." than just the sitelinks.

Did wikipedia ever have sitelinks?

Reilly




msg:3591986
 3:49 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

yes, the mainsite wikipedia.org had Sitelinks - i have seen them

WiseWebDude




msg:3592015
 4:11 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I typed into Google: Wikipedia and sure enough it has a search box under the result, but I see no SiteLinks there now though, it replaced those...

sem4u




msg:3592070
 5:04 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I can't see it from the UK. A search for Microsoft brings up sitelinks and a link to stock quotes.

lookingatit




msg:3592079
 5:10 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Use this [216.239.51.99...] instead of [google.com...]

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