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New Search Box Under Sitelinks
lookingatit




msg:3591002
 5:19 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Anyone else seeing a search box underneath the sitelinks on .co.uk just search microsoft. Is this just goog testing or will everyone with sitelinks get one?

 

SEOMike




msg:3592158
 6:12 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I see the box here in the Midwest US.

I like the new little box. The button is a little ugly though. So many sites have such crappy site searches I've often wished something like this existed.

httpwebwitch




msg:3592271
 7:59 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I see the box.
I also see it when searching for OpenText, YouTube, iVillage, Flickr, Cafepress, Second Life, Wikipedia.

All it does is append "site:_____" to your query.
I like it.

lookingatit




msg:3592279
 8:08 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Just wondering what people think is this a test or a permanent roll out?

It has been bouncing in and out around a few datacenters from UK, Germany, and US.

g1smd




msg:3592313
 8:48 pm on Mar 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

It also shows on google.co.uk for a search term like [nasa] now. I am in the UK too.

Robert Charlton




msg:3592511
 1:58 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

Wikipedia... sure enough it has a search box under the result, but I see no SiteLinks

Interesting. I don't ever remember navigating to the Wikipedia home page by search, so I don't know whether the overall home page ever had Sitelinks. The multi-language home page nav isn't one I'd have thought would be Sitelink-friendly.

Search for [wikipedia english]. Google displays both Sitelinks related to the "Main Page" (in English) and a search box.

crobb305




msg:3592545
 2:32 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

I do not see it and I am checking on terms that currently show sitelinks.

-Edit- I finally got to see it on a specific search I did. It certainly is limited to a few domains (e.g. Microsoft). It's a big mystery to me how and why sitelinks appeared for some domains in the first place, and now this search box has appeared.

Thanks for the info.

arnarn




msg:3592558
 2:54 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

if amazon can get their custom search embedded into results, how about us peons?

Anybody have any ideas on what Google will be charging for this new "feature". Where can we sign up?

Another clever way to squeeze more milk out of the cash cow.

tedster




msg:3592577
 3:21 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

It's not Amazon's custom search, it's Google site: operator results.

mic089




msg:3592607
 4:42 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

I am seeing the search box in Australia when searching google.com.au for large education and government websites.

arnarn




msg:3592672
 7:12 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

tedster, you're right, of course.

My first reaction to change is to wonder what the motive is and a first thought was (oh no.. we're gonna start seeing this search button show up all over the place).. and then they'll start marketing it as an "add-on" to their Adwords (i.e. another few $$ and we'll embed a site search button for you).

Could it be a technique to hold on to the G searcher longer, and maybe have one more chance at showing adwords?

So, the question I guess is how does this embedding of a search box in results evolve? Is this just to improve the search experience? Does it tie into (or relate to) anything else such as custom search or adwords?

Reilly




msg:3592716
 9:19 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

the question is - how large must a site be - to show this cool new feature? - i want it :D

sem4u




msg:3592738
 9:53 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

You must have to have a very large site, but at the moment I can't see one for Adobe.

I can't see a search box for some of the largest UK retailers either.

[Edit - just found one!]

GF_Diablos




msg:3592797
 11:45 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have just found it for a small UK site, very odd indeed.

lookingatit




msg:3592838
 12:50 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

I've just seen it for a UK travel site as well.

Reilly




msg:3592846
 12:52 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

how many pages indexed?

lookingatit




msg:3592854
 12:57 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

107,000 pages

fearlessrick




msg:3592869
 1:21 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

They did one for my site. Works with a search for my domain. Traffic doubled overnight. This creates somewhat of a dilemma for both of us (me and G). Back in December, they slammed my entire site PR from a 4 to ZERO ostensibly because I was doing some paid blogging and accept paid advertising (not a crime).

Turns out that the PR change was cosmetic. No PR shows, but my site still passes juice according to a couple of tests done by some pretty bright people.

So, while I like more traffic, I really don't wish to be beholding to Google for it unless they back off on some of their heavy-handed, control-freak "guidelines" for webmasters.

They have too much control and now have decided which pages to display under my search results (four of them, and only 1 is one that I would have chosen).

Now, if they want to give the webmaster control over what's s displayed, that's another story. Meanwhile, I am very wary of anything they do, per past experiences.

Edit: before anyone asks, I did remove the paid posts from my blog and did a reinclusion request over a month ago. No response.

skipfactor




msg:3592872
 1:31 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

>>Traffic doubled overnight.

Doesn't surprise me at all. Sticks out like a sore thumb. 3 search forms on a Google SERP and a site other than Google gets to be one of them. TRUST.

Reilly




msg:3592907
 1:59 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

107,000 pages

do we find another site with less then 107 000 pages ... i wanna know what's the limit to get this sitesearch...

fearlessrick




msg:3592957
 2:29 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

I want to point out that I didn't see a site search box under my site, just extra formatting with four links below the usual description. I have many less than 107,000 pages, but the site has been online since 1998, so maybe age has something to do with it. Plus, my site is an authority in a very small niche.

lookingatit




msg:3593037
 3:27 pm on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

"do we find another site with less then 107 000 pages ... i wanna know what's the limit to get this sitesearch... "

Lowest I've seen is 97,900 but I would have thought there's probably more factors determining how you get this search box other than just the amount of indexed pages, such as age of site, authority in it's industry amount of times searched. I'm sure there could be lots of other tangible reasons as well.

BradleyT




msg:3594444
 8:50 pm on Mar 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I found one under 10K

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 10:43 pm (utc) on Mar. 7, 2008]
[edit reason] removed specifics [/edit]

Robert Charlton




msg:3594447
 8:54 pm on Mar 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I found one under 10K

Without getting into specific search areas, can you characterize this site... eg, high volume local government site, well-known technical site, etc?

I'm assuming that Google would not do this for a 10K page commercial site.

Rugles




msg:3594448
 8:55 pm on Mar 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Besides having a very large site, is there any other criteria?

Like massive Adsense accounts, use the Google hardware etc.

There must be more criteria than a large site, or WebmasterWorld would have the "Bonus Box".

BradleyT




msg:3594487
 9:35 pm on Mar 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

Robert,

It's a privately owned for-profit college network ...so yeah basically it is a "commercial" site blessed with an .edu extension.

[edited by: Robert_Charlton at 10:43 pm (utc) on Mar. 7, 2008]
[edit reason] removed specifics [/edit]

anallawalla




msg:3594775
 4:17 am on Mar 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

I can see it from Australia for major sites via google.com. Seen at 209.85.173.147, 209.85.173.103, 209.85.173.104, 209.85.173.99

I also posted in the Supporters area about the new, smaller Advanced Search interface being shown for google.com to Australian viewers. - I used that to conduct the above search, but google.com.au also displays the search box below sitelinks.

Whitey




msg:3598203
 7:53 am on Mar 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

this only seems to be affecting very large or very high traffic sites, and definitely not all of them

Interesting observation . What do you estimate to be high traffic ?

I noticed that 2 out of 5 of our branded sites have just started producing sitelinks, which are our higher traffic sites. So I'm wondering if these gimmicks are released at traffic or interest thresholds.

natto




msg:3610864
 9:20 am on Mar 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

A little more info on this as I've just noticed this on the site I work on. We're a major UK utilities website with a .com tld. We have only a couple of thousand pages online. We are Google Adwords customers and we have Google analytics on our website. Google's SERPS shows the site links as well as the site search box. It appears when searching for our company name or for our domain name (with and without the www).

I'll check with marketing to see if they requested this or had an option to opt in or out of it. Should hopefully be able to update you today.

If you have any questions about our site that you'd think would help you to find out how and why this search box appears, just ask. If I'm able to reply, I will. :)

(Reason for edit: typo)

tedster




msg:3611115
 3:14 pm on Mar 26, 2008 (gmt 0)

There's another thread where members are discussing what they have noticed about the algo for Sitelinks [webmasterworld.com] overall. So this thread should focus on the site search box, which is not always there with every instance of sitelinks.

I can tell you that site search is not placed in the sitelinks by request of the site owner, and it's not placed there simply by a threshold number of indexed urls. For example, one client has 1,100 indexed urls and their sitelinks area does include the site search box; another has 1,700 indexed urls and their sitelinks area does not include a site search box. Also, the presence or absence of the domain itself offering an internal search function does not seem to be a factor.

Some ideas - the site search box may be a traffic metric, or it may include a measurement of how frequently there are query revisions. Those are two guesses that I can't rule out, and they would make some sense.

Lame_Wolf




msg:3612821
 11:44 pm on Mar 27, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have sitelinks for a couple of my sites but not in the words I want.
Many of you may also have sitelinks if you enter the correct words.

For example, if your site is called fredblogs dot com and you enter fred blogs [with a space inbetween] - then you may not get site links.
But, if you enter fredblogs [without space] into google, then the chances are that they will appear.
hth
LW

HuskyPup




msg:3612856
 1:05 am on Mar 28, 2008 (gmt 0)

Some ideas - the site search box may be a traffic metric, or it may include a measurement of how frequently there are query revisions.

How about selected sites that do not use Google site search regardless of size? i.e. Those sites using "non-Google" search?

WebmasterWorld has Google search, many companies have Google search, I have Google site search...just a thought & I haven't checked any of the sites that have these results so far.

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