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Does Googlebot Automatically Index New Blogspot, Wordpress Blogs?
abhishekkaushik




msg:3567528
 10:33 am on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have this doubt that at least Google or other search engines are configured to automatically index the new blogs created in popuplar blog sites like wordpress, and blogspot or we have to add the blog link somewhere manually?

 

tedster




msg:3568107
 12:22 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think your doubt is well-founded. Without any external links, Google is not likely to index any site, whether it's a blog or not. They're definitely not likely to keep in the index for very long even, if they do discover the url somehow.

dhirajch




msg:3568343
 8:13 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think it is not always. but yes definetly much more faster than any website.

abhishekkaushik




msg:3568352
 8:34 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

i think my doubt it clear now Google will index the blogs that have provided some form of site feed like RSS or Atom. unless the blog will not be listed

refer the policy
[google.com...]

whatleywah




msg:3568371
 9:10 am on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have a friend that had his blog site on wordpress but moved it to blogger in the last 3 weeks. Any new posts get indexed within minutes, its nuts. Blogs that he posts always appear very high in the SERPS also.

piatkow




msg:3568680
 4:29 pm on Feb 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

I started a small blog on Blogger, basically as an personal diary that my daughters could also read. No inbound links at all and it indexed and is found on searches but needs some pretty esoteric search arguements to come out any where near the first few pages.

wrockca




msg:3569266
 3:23 am on Feb 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

I don't think necessarily it is the feed but the content and relevance of that topic.

iridiax




msg:3569283
 3:55 am on Feb 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

I think that if your blog automatically pings update services, it will eventually be discovered by search engines.

To see if search engines and update services are blocked or not in WordPress, check the settings in Dashboard -> Options -> Privacy -> Blog Visibility.

incrediBILL




msg:3569284
 4:01 am on Feb 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

I hate to burst some naysayers bubbles but Google indexed and ranked one of my new blogspot sites in less than 2 hours.

piatkow




msg:3569493
 9:31 am on Feb 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

No idea how quickly ny Blogspot blog indexed as I wasn't aiming to publicise it at the time. I was very surprised and rather flattered when I started seeing searches coming in.

gibbergibber




msg:3569519
 10:04 am on Feb 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Is Google favouring Blogger/Blogspot because they own it? If so... is that fair on people who use other blogging services?

bankans




msg:3569724
 3:55 pm on Feb 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Brothers,
I am not very technical person, but I use wordpress for all of my sites. Google do index my site within minutes. When I started, I had html site and it never did well with google indexing. I am sticking with wordpress for over two years now and I am entirely happy with it!

abhishekkaushik




msg:3569729
 3:57 pm on Feb 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

More of this, there is another question how much helpful it is to blog on wordpress knowing the fact that the blogger service is owned by google itself...i appreciate anyone with wordpress blog to share their experience..

Kufu




msg:3569846
 6:19 pm on Feb 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Without any external links, Google is not likely to index any site, whether it's a blog or not.
(Emphasis Added)

I will have to disagree. I develop many domains and have yet to actually submit any of them. Of course I do link-work but even before any links have been created Google indexes the domain (even if it's just the home page).

This has been the case ever since Google became a registrar. They will look at any registered domain and if it's not parked and has even one page (e.g. Coming Soon), it will index the page.

This has been my experience.

incrediBILL




msg:3569850
 6:21 pm on Feb 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

Blogspot blogs DO get indexed with ZERO links to the blog.

It's done when you submit your first post.

ws3222877




msg:3571538
 4:07 pm on Feb 11, 2008 (gmt 0)

The effect seems to be that blogs ping pingomatic.com see Wordpress >options >writing "Update Services" [rpc.pingomatic.com...]

Pingomatic in turn pings google owned feedburner.

within a few minutes google blog search picks up the listing. It can be pinged [blogsearch.google.com...]

within a few more minutes the page is picked up in the main google database.

If I am missing anything that anybody knows about please post it, there is no reason not too the cat is out of the bag.

hero4u




msg:3572613
 8:14 am on Feb 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

well-form html structure. easy to index?

conficio




msg:3575351
 1:14 am on Feb 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

There is also websites like aboutus.org that continously add new domains to their Wiki and link to it.

K<o>

[edited by: tedster at 1:42 am (utc) on Feb. 15, 2008]

wrockca




msg:3575383
 2:55 am on Feb 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

However wordpress blogs still hold great value in structure and ease of use for the proper type of blogging system.

Every Tool is built directly into one interface

That can be a huge benefit since you don't have to use a lot of tools to get answers about your blog.

I have both Google Blogger and Wordpress, and I manage many of high ranked industries however both blogs are equal in traffic but when it comes to business conversion it all depends upon if your content is valued to the engine.

Google, MSN and Yahoo can now understand real edits to automated edits. Effecting in a much more intense and un-explained de-indexing within the next months during the filter sift of MSN and Yahoo once the two engines meet one database. Making only 2 Major Indexes left on the internet. MSN and Google

It should be interesting how it turns out....

stunningorange




msg:3590065
 5:00 pm on Mar 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Anyone else think the G toolbar plays a part in this? Interesting test maybe?

BradleyT




msg:3590299
 9:11 pm on Mar 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Anyone else think the G toolbar plays a part in this? Interesting test maybe?

Yes. We have a development domain that only 2 people here in the office know about and both of us have the G toolbar and google started indexing the site shortly after I initially uploaded the site.

So it's either the toolbar or registry information IMO.

incrediBILL




msg:3590318
 9:24 pm on Mar 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Are you sure there's nothing else about the site that could trigger this such as having AdSense on the page, Google analytics, etc?

incrediBILL




msg:3590319
 9:26 pm on Mar 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

registry information

OK, there's a thought as Domain tools dot com and/or AboutUs.org create pages about every new domain as they come online and Google indexes their site.

[edited by: incrediBILL at 9:27 pm (utc) on Mar. 3, 2008]

Robert Charlton




msg:3590566
 4:40 am on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Anyone else think the G toolbar plays a part in this?

That would be last on my list. See discussion here...

Why is Google indexing my entire web server?
[webmasterworld.com...]

CrustyAdmin




msg:3590572
 5:29 am on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Google is a registrar so they know when a new domain comes to life. Can't be too hard for them to send a bot out to see what's there.

Search engines find sites plenty easily these days without links or a blog on the domain pinging Technorati et al.

Google does seem to index Blogger blogs a bit quicker, but in the long run, so what. Does it really matter if you are indexed this today or next week. If it does, you probably don't have a site people are that interested in anyway.

ecmedia




msg:3590812
 2:07 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yes it matters a lot when you get indexed CrustyAdmin. If you write about breaking news, if you are not indexed immediately, you lose traffic.

conficio




msg:3590876
 3:04 pm on Mar 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

ecmedia,
I think CrustyAdmin is not referring to "being indexed", but to "being discovered for indexing"

Sure if you have breaking daily news, then you better get indexed by the crawlers often and timely. However, if you have a new website (domain) and rely on the website crawlers to discover you within hours to disseminate your news, then your expectations are flawed.

By the way, to get the fastest reaction from Google in my experience is to put AdSense code on it (and view it in your browser). The crawler comes within a couple of hours. You can remove it later, if you want, the crawler has now an initial copy and will come back. But this is Google only!

abhishekkaushik




msg:3592491
 1:21 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

despite of following up with all above advice my blogs are not listed in google. for example i have put my blog link to a PR3 page, published it too, subscribed to Atom feed, manually submitted my blog to google. nothing happened and this is with 3-4 of my blogs with one of them hosted in wordpress and other 2 in blogspot.....does it mean that google has become too much choosy to index those blogs....somebody help me out please

CrustyAdmin




msg:3592568
 3:10 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

One time I had a similar problem. I did something dumb with robots.txt which kept the engines from crawling my content. Check robots.txt and .htacccess if you use either one.

conficio




msg:3592726
 9:41 am on Mar 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

abhishekkaushik,
are these blogs listed in other search engines?

What is the subject of the blogs? Could adult filters stop your blogs from being displayed in the results?

How do you check that the blog is listed in Google?

I guess if you host your blogs on other people's platform, you can't access the logs, where you would see if the Google Bot does visit and read the robots.txt

Have you put some code like Google Analytics on the blog, so you can see if the search engines send you visitors?

K<O>

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