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February 2008 Google SERP Changes
annej

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 4:41 am on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

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who cares if the anchor text is "Click here!". Your going to rank for title keywords without one inbound anchor text!

And I have exactly the opposite happening. I have several years worth of links with the anchor text (my site name).
It's not like they appeared all at once. A few months ago the homepage started to be filtered out for the most common (and key) word. The page still does well on all data centers but gets pushed way down on in the serps on Google.com.

Site is #3 on ALL DCs for a very competitive phrase, but nowhere on www.google.com.

Yes, yes! The difference is this has been going on for some time for me and now it seems to be happening to more of you.

nobody else in my page 1-2 SERPs is having these probs

Me either, at least not with the sites that were in the top 10. There has been shifting but nothing as drastic as my situation.

"minus something" penalty back to bite us?

Sort if like the -950 except in this case the google.com result has been jumping all over from around -100 to not there are all..

Another strange thing is if I set it for 100 results then Google shows a far lesser page with few links at around -20 with the far higher PR and well linked homepage indented below the lesser page from the same site. It's definitely a filter of some sort.

most of us have one thing in common.......fairly new sites...am I right?

My problem is with a site that is over 10 years old.

I'm taking the stance that I will no longer worry about google.

I keep telling myself I should do that. My site has a great long tail and the one search term doesn't make that much difference. But it just bugs the heck out of me! It seems like I should be able to figure out what odd thing about my site is causing the problem.

[edited by: tedster at 8:26 am (utc) on Feb. 1, 2008]

 

kamikaze Optimizer

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 4:43 am on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

Big Mac:

I understand, I see this also…, it looks like a rollback to 12 months or even a few more to me. But I have seen this happen before. It does not happen often, but I have seen it and this is one of the things that seems to ding new sites.

Why does Google do this? I have no clue.

The good news is, you should not worry about it. This will roll back out to the “normal” results and as long as your site is still clean, you should be fine.

So, my 2 cents?

Don’t do anything different then what you were doing before.

I hope this helps.

kamikaze Optimizer

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:18 am on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

Annej:

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't your site/KW in a very competitive (+/-500,000,000 serps results) widgeting category?

I only mention this as I think it may add relevance to your issue as compared to other people’s issues.

annej

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 6:00 am on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

Google says 19,000,000 results right now so it isn't as big as you were thinking. The results for the word ranged from 4 to 7 for a few years then this happened.

But you may be right that this situation I'm dealing with doesn't fit here. I just keep hoping to see the pattern in other people's experience in hopes it will help me solve my problem.

Durbanite

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 7:48 am on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

So both old and new sites having a problem. Does that take us back to our earlier discussons on some form of filter for ibl's and anchor text? IBL's we've made use of contain our "site name" in the anchor text and and is also our brand phrase (the one thats fallen off the face of Google.com).

CainIV

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 8:13 am on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

It seems like I should be able to figure out what odd thing about my site is causing the problem.

Sounds like something which needs a fresh set of eyes.

I had a forum member here find something in my website, when I felt I had exhausted all avenues. Sometimes you get caught up in your own assessment of your website and overlook the completely obvious.

In my case, this particular observation helped in a very significant way.

andrewshim

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 3:46 pm on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)


Site is #3 on ALL DCs for a very competitive phrase, but nowhere on www.google.com.

Yes, yes! The difference is this has been going on for some time for me and now it seems to be happening to more of you.

Started happening only this week. Actually, 7 days ago I found my site at #811. Yesterday, I found it at #428. Looks exactly like what happened to my site about 9-12 months ago.

razoras

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:14 pm on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

From last thread:
Since the 'rollback' to fix #6 glitch my site dissapeared back to the sandbox but still shows up well on all the other DCs. It is obvious to me that G is either literally showing data from 6 months ago or has discounted all links with less than 6 months of age.

Just to try to stamp this down before people really take off with it, this can't be the case. 6 months ago my pages were #9 and dropping in a specific search term. 6 months ago our link profile was abysmal.

We remain at #2 and #1 this week, but had dropped slightly to #3 the week prior. They haven't done any rollback to ancient data. They certainly rolled something out though, because we have been all over the place on individual datacenters early this week.

circusboy

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:22 pm on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

I am seeing some very weird results and significant drop in traffic since Jan 30th.

Our site is just over 1 year old. We have an excellent variety of links (over 20K in Y! - all types, all natural, including links from white-listed sites) and an excellent internal link structure. We usually have about 10 single keywords and 30 to 40 double keyword phrases that are #1 to #5 for a very competitive broad market with big players.

For the last 9 months we've been seeing 5k to 10K uniques per day from Google. On the 30th, about 70% of our top performing keywords that were ranking #1 to #5, slid to #11 to #20 (many to 15+)..., another 20% just disappeared, and 10% stayed where they were and are still ranking fine. But now we're only seeing 2K uniques from Google.

ALSO, about 10 days ago we changed a large portion of unique content that was provided through a feed, adding even more content per page (on about 150K pages) - but none of these pages that were changed were our high ranking pages, they contain local unique info that was added to.

While this is definitely hurting the pocketbook, it's the weirdest set of results I've ever seen for this site - usually it's either all in or all out? Granted, I did have a negative run-in with Diggers a few days ago on another site (that referred to this affected site as mine), but I find it hard to accept they could have done this?

Any ideas? Am I just freaking out? Should I wait a few more days for the dust to settle before taking action?

marketingmagic

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:45 pm on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

These results seem to be flipping back here in Canada. Results are totally different in a proxy browser (US), compared to directly from Canada. Just the other day they were the same, now today the results here are back to what they were the other day.

Anyone else seeing this change back?

Big_Mac

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 6:58 pm on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

Kamikaze, thank you I feel better and will take your experienced advice and sit tight.

Big_Mac

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 7:39 pm on Feb 1, 2008 (gmt 0)

I forgot to mention that I think there is a filter at play in my situation as I was able to make the site pop up (in a miserable position #150) the other day by appending the results with '&filter=0', don't know if that is a valid test or not, I am still learning this stuff, thanks for your patience.

annej

WebmasterWorld Senior Member annej us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3563627 posted 1:40 am on Feb 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Sounds like something which needs a fresh set of eyes.

If anyone is willing to be fresh eyes just sticky me.

I am convinced mine is related to a filter but not sure if it's related to the present turbulence.

pccasino

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 12:50 am on Feb 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Has any one noticed this datacenter at ip [64.233.189.107...]

It seems to be showing unique results compared to the different datacenters out there.

[edited by: tedster at 1:51 am (utc) on Feb. 2, 2008]
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Bewenched

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 7:55 am on Feb 2, 2008 (gmt 0)

Google has discounted all links with less than 6 months of age.

Exactly! but from what I see. They have removed those links. They are no longer in WMT yet they are still on those sites.


Has any one noticed this datacenter at ip [64.233.189.107...]

EEK.. it's not even showing our page descriptions, just snippets from the page. Same number or pages found for search of our site though.

[edited by: Bewenched at 8:01 am (utc) on Feb. 2, 2008]

DXL

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 11:45 pm on Feb 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Most of the changes that I've seen are with my relatively new sites.

1. Biggest fluctuations are in sites with brand new domain names registered within the last 3-6 months.

2. Revamped sites that I go white hat with (inbound links with keyword anchor text, keyword-rich but proper length title tags) seem to be doing fine.

Out of dozens of sites, I'm seeing significant fluctuations with only a single established one, the bigger changes are with sites launched 4-5 months ago. One client hasn't noticed it, the other is flipping out.

drewnick

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 12:55 am on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I am also seeing this with new sites. Perhaps the new-site effect, whatever you want to call it, is being tweaked up a bit.

Bewenched

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 3:55 am on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing it somewhat with ours however our site is 11 years old.

johnsonsmith1

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 4:11 pm on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I haven't noticed anything

supafresh

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 4:32 pm on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

havent noticed anything either, old site, still have all my links, still have all my pages.

Miop

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 4:37 pm on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have most of my pages not indexed due to redirects (aka se friendly URL's), and my cached index page is that of another site completely which has nothing to do with me.?

johnsonsmith1

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:23 pm on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

people with penalties I'm sure are still penalized

Miop

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:38 pm on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

I didn't have any penalties - my site was nice and neatly cached, nearly all pages indexed, ranking reasonable well, and correct site in Google cache! Something happened...

drewnick

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:54 pm on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

That caching issue is VERY strange! I've never heard of the wrong site being cached...

kamikaze Optimizer

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 7:14 pm on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

The wrong cache issue has happened before. It was a few years back the last time it happened on any wide scale if I can recall correctly. Google fixed it very fast and GoogleGuy spoke about it.

Also, and I am not suggesting that you are... but one of the side effects of spoofing Google PR is having the page of the targeted spoof show up as the cache page.

Miop

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:17 pm on Feb 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I wouldn't know how to spoof google pr!?

Miop

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:32 pm on Feb 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

Lol...according to google webmaster tools, the top search query for my site is shirts - the word does not occur even once on my entire website.

zaneta

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:41 pm on Feb 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have just noticed in google site map tool that the number of indexed pages of my sites are around 30% less from two day ago. Has any one seeing this too?

Atomic

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 5:47 pm on Feb 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I have just noticed in google site map tool that the number of indexed pages of my sites are around 30% less from two day ago. Has any one seeing this too?

Yes. A bunch of sitemap errors sprung up as well.

marcus

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Msg#: 3563627 posted 11:10 pm on Feb 5, 2008 (gmt 0)

I don't know what happened but my site that rates in the top ten for many search words went from 2nd position to 27th position in my top searches. Other top ten searches are not in the top 100. Did they change the algorithm today or something. Any input or idea what has happened?

[edited by: tedster at 11:28 pm (utc) on Feb. 5, 2008]
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