homepage Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.197.215.146
register, free tools, login, search, subscribe, help, library, announcements, recent posts, open posts,
Subscribe to WebmasterWorld
Home / Forums Index / Google / Google SEO News and Discussion
Forum Library, Charter, Moderators: Robert Charlton & aakk9999 & brotherhood of lan & goodroi

Google SEO News and Discussion Forum

    
Search volume for keywords on Google UK
ashis06




msg:3560670
 10:23 am on Jan 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi all,

Anyone know of a tool that allows you to calculate actual search volume for keywords on Google UK or Yahoo UK - for 1 day / 1 month? I have seen a no of tools that state to do this but these are for Google.com rather than UK.

 

fishfinger




msg:3560941
 3:06 pm on Jan 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

Actual search volume is known only to Google and there is no tool that gives you that.

ESTIMATED search volume can be got from Wordtracker (now available in the UK). They use a small search provider to get a dataset and then multiply it up to estimate demand across the UK internet.

I've heard that Keyword Discovery is also supposed to be good.

For free, the Google AdWords tool gives you level of demand. As they have the biggest dataset by a loooong way I consider that more important than numbers - especially because the numbers are a guess anyway.

dmaniatis




msg:3561050
 4:38 pm on Jan 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

You may also want to check out Google Trends. It gives an estimate but perhaps you can get an idea when you compare your keyword with ones that you know to be of high volume e.g. "xmas".

Another technique you could use is to run an Adwords campaign on the specific keyword and measure impressions. If your are looking for historical data this will not help but it can tell you what is going on at the moment.

hope this helps

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3561390
 9:54 pm on Jan 29, 2008 (gmt 0)

ESTIMATED search volume can be got from Wordtracker (now available in the UK).

Wordtracker was actually developed in the UK and AFAIK it has always been available here. ;)

fishfinger




msg:3562149
 6:01 pm on Jan 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

Oh yes available here, but what I meant was it used to use data from two metasearch engines (Dogpile and I think Exactseek) and it was 'whole world' data.

They rolled out the UK only version last year.

My account rep wouldn't tell me where the data came from for the UK tool but said it was a UK ISP / search provider.

In my view Google is more use (which is why I cancelled my sub) but I see US-centric terms in that even with my region selected as the UK.

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3562240
 7:28 pm on Jan 30, 2008 (gmt 0)

My account rep wouldn't tell me where the data came from for the UK tool but said it was a UK ISP / search provider.

Fishfinger don't you think that sounds a bit fishy? :)

fishfinger




msg:3565187
 10:55 am on Feb 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

I can't remember that clearly, but they were as forthcoming as they could be and cited confidentiality.

They might have even told me or dropped a hint, I can't remember.

It could be Excite - not sure though, sorry.

fishfinger




msg:3565188
 10:57 am on Feb 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

run an Adwords campaign on the specific keyword and measure impressions

that isn't reliable unless your ad is SEEN. An 'impression' only happens when your ad is displayed. So if you can't afford to be on page one for the terms you're interested in you won't get accurate data.

Crush




msg:3565398
 9:17 pm on Feb 3, 2008 (gmt 0)

Damn, I wish google would show the search volumes. It is a real PITA not knowing what the real figures are.

fishfinger




msg:3565754
 1:44 pm on Feb 4, 2008 (gmt 0)

Yep, that's one tool I would definitely pay for!

ashis06




msg:3573682
 10:18 am on Feb 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

So which tool i should use to check traffic in UK ?

fishfinger




msg:3573852
 3:16 pm on Feb 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

Like I said, you can try Wordtracker (I think they offer a free trial) Keyword Discovery, or the Google AdWords tool (which you can set to show UK data).

None of them are perfect. Try them yourself and see which you prefer.

ashis06




msg:3577628
 7:09 am on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

But Google Adwords is for Paid traffic or Organic Traffic?
I Want organic traffic

fishfinger




msg:3577761
 10:15 am on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Like I said, Wordtracker and Keyword Discovery use small datasets and then play with the figures to ESTIMATE traffic for the entire internet.

The AdWords tool shows you comparative levels of demand for search phrases that people are bidding on in Google. It also shows you comparative levels of competition to be first in the paid results for those phrases.

As far as I am aware, that's as good as it gets.

ashis06




msg:3577823
 12:24 pm on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Is the result of Google adwords paid or organic?
Because google adwords tools is only for PPC.

I want to know whether this tool is for organic search or paid search

FromRocky




msg:3577848
 1:16 pm on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

<<I want to know whether this tool is for organic search or paid search>>
The tool is initially based on the number of online searches on Google for any given term. However, Google does't give out the direct number but based on some paid-search CTR's. One can estimate the organic search if an assumption of a reasonable CTR is used.

fishfinger




msg:3578613
 8:56 am on Feb 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

I want to know whether this tool is for organic search or paid search

There's no such thing as organic search or paid search. There's just search.

Do you say to yourself "I want to buy some shoes so I'll do a PAID search" and "Now I'm looking for information so I'll do an ORGANIC search"?

No, and neither does anyone else.

All tools mentioned in this thread show data for ALL searches and all types of searches. As explained, they come from different sources.

I think you need to read the answers given above a bit closer, because all the information is there.

Then read up on each of the tools yourself and try them out.

aj113




msg:3580014
 2:25 pm on Feb 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

I use Wordtracker for UK keywords. Wordtracker sometimes gets it wrong though - I know their results are vulnerable to se spammers, but i don't know if this is the cause of their erors every time.

So I use Google itself to verify the competition for a keyword as stated by Wordtracker. That way I figure that if Wordtracker (UK) and Google UK are in agreement then the chances are that the rest of the Wordtracker stats for that particular keyword are probably ok - including volume.

Global Options:
 top home search open messages active posts  
 

Home / Forums Index / Google / Google SEO News and Discussion
rss feed

All trademarks and copyrights held by respective owners. Member comments are owned by the poster.
Home ¦ Free Tools ¦ Terms of Service ¦ Privacy Policy ¦ Report Problem ¦ About ¦ Library ¦ Newsletter
WebmasterWorld is a Developer Shed Community owned by Jim Boykin.
© Webmaster World 1996-2014 all rights reserved