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Google Stop Sending Regular Visitors, Only Image Search
It is the 3rd day that Google stopped sending visitors
mediacore

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Msg#: 3509470 posted 4:53 am on Nov 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hello Everybody,

This is my first post in the forums, i would like to know if somebody can help me with this or have any idea why this is happenning.
I've started this site around 6 months ago and at the begining (first 2-3 days) I got very good results and visitors for my keywords, after that Google drop my traffic to 0 , none, I've waited month after month as is suggested in this forum and I' kept adding content in a daily basis.

Last week It seems Google "liked" me a little more and start sending some visitors, I've got to 90-100 Google Visitors per day and i was having the impression that this will grow with the time but suddenly last saturday everything stopped again, no visitors at all in the whole weekend, today I'm seeing just 26 visitors but they've came from a Google image search (image.google....) , not a regular keyword search.

The site looks good in the site: search
I have around 1600 indexed pages, I'm using Wordpress with some SEO Plugins and Ultimate tag Warrior.

I would like if somebody can guide me trough this or just a little explanation of what is going on? I'm building backlinks in a weekly basis, I should wait? Google webmaster tools looks ok with no error in the site neither.

Thanks!

Carlos

[edited by: tedster at 5:06 am (utc) on Nov. 20, 2007]

 

tedster

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Msg#: 3509470 posted 9:18 pm on Nov 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hello mediacore, and welcome to the forums.

That kind of trouble after 6 months is not expected, even though at 6 months your site is still relatively new. It could be a bug in Google, but it could also be a penalty. You may find some help in determining which situation you've got with this thread: What type of penalty do I have? [webmasterworld.com] - especially later in the thread, since for the opening poster, the situation only lasted a few days.

Also, get familiar with the other threads in our Hot Topics area [webmasterworld.com], which is always pinned to the top of this forum's index page. There are many possibilities to consider, and these threads hit the main notes.

koolkaptain

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Msg#: 3509470 posted 2:30 pm on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hi mediocre,

I'm experiencing exactly the same problem. Traffic from google.com has come to NIL. There are some searches for images.google.com, but none whatsoever from google.com search.

I visited the other forums indicated in the thread, but couldn't find a satisfactory solution.

Is your problem resolved?

Ahyone else had anything like this happen lately? -- all traffic from google searches have stopped.

Thanks.

[edited by: tedster at 5:47 pm (utc) on Dec. 19, 2007]

mediacore

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Msg#: 3509470 posted 2:42 pm on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Koolkaptain

The name is mediacore not mediocre.

Google started sending traffic again very slowly, from 100 a day now is down to an average of 30 a day but I had the same issue you have, just images.google.... for almost a month.

I don't know what can cause this and how to solve the problem, all the pages are indexed in Google, sitemap is good, robots are ok, I don't know, just frustrating.

koolkaptain

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3509470 posted 3:12 pm on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hi mediacore,

Sorry about the wrong name. I saw it immdtly after posting, but couldn't find out to edit it.

Yeah I'm still suffering, still trying to find solutions.

I did find in Google Webmaster tools that two error_log pages are preventing Googlebot from accessing them. I wonder if I should rewrite the permission for them... or something?

This is crazy, never seen anything like this before, didn't even hear about it until happened to me.

[edited by: tedster at 5:49 pm (utc) on Dec. 19, 2007]

mediacore

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Msg#: 3509470 posted 3:43 pm on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

koolkaptain,

Everything it is ok with my site in Google webmaster tools but now I have 836 pages of 1906 that I had before.
I have page rank 4 and an average of 35 visits a day after the suddenly drop, where did you see that error_log pages in webmaster tools?

[edited by: tedster at 5:49 pm (utc) on Dec. 19, 2007]

koolkaptain

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Msg#: 3509470 posted 3:57 pm on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hi mediacore,

I found them at Google Webmaster Tools > Dashboard > Diagnostics > Web Crawl > HTTP Errors

Two error_log pages from plugin folders reported as inaccessible. I've changed the permissions to 777, even though I don't think it will help.

More interestingly, at Google Webmaster Tools > Dashboard > Diagnostics > Content Analysis, 11 of my pages are classified as "Pages with duplicate title tags:

Google comment: We've noticed some issues that may make it difficult for Google to crawl and index pages on your site.
Title tag issues Pages
Missing title tags 0
Duplicate title tags 11
Long title tags 0
Short title tags 0
Non-informative title tags 0

Maybe my 11 pages with 'duplicate title tags' have got something to do with googlebot indexing. I looked at those pages, and they're all archives pages, 11 pages for the last 11 months. Archives pages WILL be duplicate, right?

mediacore

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Msg#: 3509470 posted 4:07 pm on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

koolkaptain.

Archives pages duplicated? what CMS are you using?

koolkaptain

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Msg#: 3509470 posted 4:09 pm on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think duplicate title tags are a serious issue.

Duplicate title tags are a major issue with a lot of dynamic and product-related ecommerce sites nowadays. Google doesn't like to index duplicate content and duplicate title tags can result in your web pages being removed from the index entirely. By viewing a report that shows all the title tags on your website you can easily determine if there's an issue with duplicate title tags.

[edited by: tedster at 5:50 pm (utc) on Dec. 19, 2007]

koolkaptain

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Msg#: 3509470 posted 4:13 pm on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

mediacore,

I'm using the good old wordpress, 2.1, I think.

[edited by: tedster at 5:51 pm (utc) on Dec. 19, 2007]

koolkaptain

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3509470 posted 4:29 pm on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

mediacore,

What are your thoughts on removing the entire archives section? It's a widget and can be placed back any time, I think...

If there's no links to the archives section, all these 11 pages with 'duplicate title tags' should disappear, right?

Dang! This is getting more complicated.

rrsoft

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3509470 posted 2:16 pm on Dec 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hello,

Same symptoms here. Site age: 1y and 5m. I use a custom made CMS. Google trafic grows gradually since started.
No black or gray hat since I try to make a living from this and I want to stay clean as much as I can.
Nothing wrong with my site as I can tell, confirmed by other search engines that show no fluctuation. Everything looks normal.
Begining with 9 December was a big drop:
7 December received 474 visitors
8 December - 393
9 December - 85
10 December - 27
11 December - 18
and so on...
Now I have an average of 15 visitors send by google.
Yet, google bot increase its activity on site, crawling like crazy from the same date when big drop occured. I still receive visitors from images.google.com, same as you did. On other search engines like yahoo, ask or msn I've got steady pretty good SERP position.
One thing to mention, yesterday I discovered a strange result for a search phrase on Google: one page with 5 results . The FIRST two results shows the warning message from google "This site may harm your computer" and on the last three position are the clean sites. My site was placed on the last position anyway. What I can learn from this? That my site is worst then those that may harm your computer?! or google serps are going crazy?
I checked Google Webmaster Tools and found nothing to mention. Just 41 Short meta descriptions on Content analysis and 1 url not followed.
Index and cache looks good too.
What I have done: cleaned up some suspicious back links - found a few, rel="nofollow" some sitewide cross links with my subdomains and thats it. I dont wanna spoil anything in my desperation.
So, it seems like this is not an isolated case and I write here to let you know that there are similar situations like my story above.
Hope everything will come back to normal soon!
Good day everyone!
PS: sorry for my english since is not my first language

koolkaptain

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3509470 posted 2:27 pm on Dec 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hey guys

I used a 'Supplemental Index Ratio Calculator' to determine the SI content.

With the 'www' on the site name, it showed a 52.68% of the total Google-indexed pages as being SI pages (141 pages in the main index, 157 pages in SI)

I removed the www and did the calculation again, and it showed 100% of the pages (298 pages) as being in the main index.

So I removed the www in the URL at Wordpress dashboard, and looking for traffic from Google searches. It's been about five hours now, and can't see any change yet, but it may be too early to see any.

What is happening here? Will removing the www help in any way?

Thanks.
ps: I posted this on the other SI discussion as well, but I feel it's also relevant here. Any thoughts on this?

mediacore

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3509470 posted 2:39 pm on Dec 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

The www or not www is a big dilemma for me, last time I tried this I lost ALL traffic for a week and then just 30-40 visitors a day again, where I should be having around 500 visitors, I have other site where I never touched anything, similar keywords and is not updated for many months and traffic is 200-300 a day growing slowly, I really don't understand

rrsoft

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3509470 posted 4:04 pm on Dec 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Don't play with www vs non www because this could lead to a serious duplicate problem known as canonical problem. Instead, try to choose one version(www.mysite.com or mysite.com) that seems to fit your site and stick to it. Use it on all links that refer to your site. More, go to Google Webmaster Tools: Dashboard= >Tools=>Set preferred domain and define your preferred domain if you didn't do it already.
Permanent redirect(301) using .htaccess incorrect domain name to selected one.
For example:
mysite.com redirected to www.mysite.com

rewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^mysite\.com [NC]
rewriteRule ^(.*)$ [mysite.com...] [L,R=301]

Also redirect index.php to /

rewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^[A-Z]{3,9}\ /index\.php
rewriteRule ^index\.php$ [mysite.com...] [R=301,L]

I'am not an expert so I suggest to search on webmasterworld or internet for a post or tutorial about .htaccess, rewrite rules, redirection and canonical problem since it will solve duplicate issue which prevent a site to rank well.

koolkaptain

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3509470 posted 7:37 pm on Dec 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thanks rrsoft, I've made the preferred domain at GWT for 'www'. It was set at 'don't associate with both www and non-www.'

Also, with this, the crawl set up rate option for faster crawling came up automatically, a choice which I didn't have before.

I've got to look more at redirecting .htaccess, not so sure how to handle it.

I'll let you guys know when my Google search traffic improves--if at all :(

koolkaptain

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3509470 posted 4:01 am on Jan 8, 2008 (gmt 0)

My Google search traffic is finally coming back to normal... and that's a big deal considering it was ZERO for almost a week!

What did I do? Nothing hi-tech, actually. Submitted the Google-friendly sitemap.xml at GWT, and added a Wordpress plugin (All in one SEO) that would tell Google spiders not to index the archives and categories pages (so that the problem with 'Double Title Tags' was somewhat in control.)

I also reformatted the post URLs to read blog-name/category/this-is-the-title-of-the-post

I'm not sure what helped really, but I start seeing my pages on Page 1 of Google SERP again.... hope it stays that way!

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