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Google Page Rank Update November 2007
Much awaited update!
Thaparian




msg:3488636
 7:17 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

< part two of this discussion is here: [webmasterworld.com...] >

I see PR changes for my 5-6 sites. Some went down some went up.

Check on these datacentres.

72.14.217.104

72.14.221.99

209.85.135.102

My blog went from 3 to 5 PR. :)

[edited by: tedster at 7:35 pm (utc) on Nov. 1, 2007]

 

burcot




msg:3488663
 7:38 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Some of the data centres are showing updated pr. This includes green juice on new sites that have never previously shown any.

[edited by: tedster at 7:56 pm (utc) on Oct. 26, 2007]
[edit reason] moved from another location [/edit]

patc




msg:3488789
 10:37 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hrm.

I'm seeing a 5 to a 6 on a site which dropped out of the SERPS in April and cut my income by two thirds. Then a 6 to a 0 on a site which still holds its own. Others pretty much the same.

I think they're twitching but can't believe it actually means anything at all. They always said they were a 'snapshot in time', at some arbitrary point in the past.

Another bit of scaremongering/enigmatic action from the plex, all with a pinch of salt these days...

trakkerguy




msg:3488792
 10:43 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Nice TBPR increases for me.

<edit - thought I saw serp increase, but was hallucinating...sorry>

[edited by: trakkerguy at 11:30 pm (utc) on Oct. 26, 2007]

suggy




msg:3488796
 10:51 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

See only tool bar PR. And, it looks wrong. Very well establised site that was looking close to 5 now a 3. Still riding high in very competitive SERPS. Blog has just received it's first tbpr of 1. Seemingly low scores.

Steve

whitenight




msg:3488807
 10:57 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Definitely a PR update.

People may not agree, like or dislike, but PRs have changed.
(looking across 500+ sites in different industries, with varied backlink profiles)

ha! better clarify -

A tool bar green pixels export to googlebar update. :)

vcff10




msg:3488813
 11:21 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

"A tool bar green pixels export to googlebar update. :)"

I about fell off my chair:)

LOL

Great one

RichTC




msg:3488823
 11:43 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yep, green bar update - It was Long over due if you ask me!

Ive seen a number of PR changes both up and down on loads of sites. It looks like its now much harder for sites to move higher up the chain.

Like a PR6 is like the old PR7 and a PR7 site now is like an old PR8?

Have to say i thought a number of PR5 and PR6 sites would be promoted yet they stayed still in the sectors i watch and some top draw PR8 sites are now PR7s

What ever the case it looks like the current green bar PR has already been factored into the serps anyway

Good luck

Bones




msg:3488824
 11:45 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anyone want to take a guesstimate as to when its a snapshot from? Oct 2nd-ish?

Rlilly




msg:3488845
 12:16 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

What you seeing right now probably wont be what it will end up as there seems to be glitches.. Many well established sites are showing grey!

odehmohd




msg:3488854
 12:30 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yea, it is.

Microsoft is now 9!

No update for the pages in supplemental index? Any idea about it?

Rlilly




msg:3488857
 12:34 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

odehmohd, Please check apple.com and then come back and tell me if its finished. NOT

odehmohd




msg:3488862
 12:44 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Rlilly,

apple.com > No page rank ("many website like this")
youtube.com > fluctuating between 3 and 8

Rlilly




msg:3488864
 12:47 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Exactly, Youtube at a 3 means there are glitches and this update is far from over!

odehmohd




msg:3488870
 12:55 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Actualy
[youtube.com...] is 3
[youtube.com...] is 8

DanMoore




msg:3488883
 1:06 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

My www on my main site changed to grey bar but subdomains on same site have gained pr

indias next no1




msg:3488892
 1:16 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

it's 4 to grey bar.

a month before i started a thread here that my site in google directory reflecting no page rank and in last place. i suspect it as a preview, no it's seems to be the same.

my site is a white hat and site and i done nonthing against google guidelines.

whether the page rank decrease will reflect in SERPS in the coming weeks

steveb




msg:3488905
 2:10 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

"Oct 2nd-ish?"

Looks about right.

martinibuster




msg:3488909
 2:25 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

>>>whether the page rank decrease will reflect in SERPS in the coming weeks

The toolbar values generally reflect where your site was two to five weeks ago. It isn't real-time, nor is it new. Whatever effect it had, if any at all, it very likely happened already.

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:3488918
 3:02 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I miss the old days when TBPR, back links and the Serp's Dance all happened at once, on some special day..., once a month. That was a reason to stay up all night and watch.

Most sites I look at have dropped a notch, but it all means nothing to me.

followgreg




msg:3488922
 3:16 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

The toolbar values generally reflect where your site was two to five weeks ago. It isn't real-time, nor is it new. Whatever effect it had, if any at all, it very likely happened already.

That would explain all the weird things seen for the past few weeks.

However looking at many sites, PR value make absolutely no sense to me. Looks again like half the web feels the downsides of an indexing problem.

For example one of our sites that was proxy hijacked long ago keeps "loosing" pages. Some pages don't appear in GWT, the same pages are getting a grey bar. No black hat whatsoever. Just regular pages with unique content, old page.

I see non sense blogs or sites, with popularity generated with the lowest end link exchange farming and content autogenerated with software getting some PR, it's ridiculous.

I don't know why or how, but I suspect infrastructure problems at Google, huge ones.

Common factors from grey bar pages:

1. previously proxy hijacked or heavily scrapped
2. not updated for quite a while: 6+ months
3. google cache problems: either no cache (no obvious reasons) or cache from August

Could have a little fun with the above factors if this is really what Google intended to do:
Proxy hijacks are Google's problem, not ours, why webmasters should suffer from it?
Why would a well written page be updated like a blog post?

This is all so weird, and Google keeps really quite about those things for some time now......

I personally believe that the increase of low end sites on Google.com (US)for a few weeks has to do with in fact many sites loosing their page values in the index. How, why, WTH is not for me to say.
I can't find any good reason that justifies a grey bar on some pages.
At first I suspected lack of content, but at the same time empty forum posts and the like that now surprisingly rank well get at least a white bar.

Only my thoughts based on observations. Well, in fact it really looks like either another collateral damage from some weird algorithm factor or indexing problems.

Ann4SEO




msg:3488962
 4:54 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yes, today Even i noticed, that the web pages which lost its PR in April TBPR, got back its PR i.e. 5. Also, many of the new website got a new PR. But at the same time we saw few decline in other clients website.

So the most awaited PR update is going on...

FattyB




msg:3488966
 5:52 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Our main online newspaper went from 7 to 6 across board, various subdomains. Our 2 month old German language version of the site went form no ranking to 6 and 5 for the subs.

Not really sure what to make of that. The German site has few backlinks the main site now has thousands or even tens of thousands..organic to stories etc.

Still this must reflect something otherwise what is the point of having it...or are Google just indulging webmasters?

extremegolfer




msg:3489018
 7:25 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

LOL future pagerank shows www.youtube.com (not youtube.com) at PR3 across all datacenters.

Google engineers, wow all that ping pong playing has caused you guys to drop a few......hundred notches.

suggy




msg:3489028
 7:36 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

www.youtube.com or youtube.com showing a PR3 on toolbar! This can't be right - can it?

I mean, ignoring the maths, if PR is meant to represent the authority of a site then the maths that produced this TBPR aint working.

Youtube is THE video content site, one of the most important user generated content sites, one of the biggest entertainment sites... by any measure in any segment it isn't a PR3 site.

They've shot themselves in the foot again.

To me this update proves manipulation of TBPR outside of actual ranking calculations, which suggests it isn't worth relying on.

This year my site has been a 4, then briefly 5 then 4 and now 3, yet it has not budged from the very top of the SERPS for 500-plus keyword combos, some with 80-odd million matches.

I think the lastest TBPR reflects a strategy to downgrade bought links, but the behaviour of the TBPR versus the SERPS suggests this is only for show.

Suggy

suggy




msg:3489043
 8:17 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just noticed: Some directories' internal pages have gone to grey bar. See Big Web Links (one of the more popular link bid sites). The front page still has PR, but all them links pages got zapped!

simey




msg:3489048
 8:31 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

but the behaviour of the TBPR versus the SERPS suggests this is only for show.

Exactly, and it's a bad show.

G should randomize TBPR monthly, just for the benefit of link sellers.

'Hey my links are worth $50/month, oops... now $10 month...oops... now $20 month...

JGWhitelaw




msg:3489080
 10:01 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Really strange. My home page has been a solid PR6 for well over a year, and I was expecting it to rise, if anything. I also had one other internal page on a PR6.

My home page has now dropped to a PR5, but I now have about 10-12 internal pages on PR6. Weird.

Jim

The Contractor




msg:3489114
 11:14 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have seen a lot of older established sites lose a point.

Northstar




msg:3489128
 11:47 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

All my sites seem to have dropped by 1 PR. I even checked all of my competitors and their rank dropped by 1 also. Something seems off.

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