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4yr old site filtered after IP change
Lost ranking for all but sitename
b2net




msg:3488258
 1:04 pm on Oct 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've never had any problems moving sites to other servers until now. A four year old domain with one page minisite got filtered right after changing nameservers. It ranks #1 for the site name and domain name but for everything else it's dead last.

Moving process wasn't smooth because the site showed an empty page for half the day but according to my logs Googlebot didn't visit the site during that time so I don't believe it was the problem.

I've seen -950 filtering before but this is different because I still rank #1 for the site name. The content itself should be ok, just a list of our products, contact details and Adsense.

I am prepared to wait but for how long? We're about to install an online store software but doing so to a filtered site isn't motivating. A new domain is possible but I'd rather keep the 4 year old one registered for our store name.

 

tedster




msg:3488868
 12:53 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Your one page mini-site that used to rank for some given search terms now does not rank. Is that what you mean by filtering? If the DNS is technically sound, this should straighten itself out. Is the new IP dedicated or shared?

(By the way, a -950 penalty can still leave a site in #1 for its domain name.)

Tonearm




msg:3488895
 1:21 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I may be changing IPs soon too. People don't usually lose ranking after changing IPs?

jimorandy




msg:3488903
 1:59 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Moving sites between IPs I have found 20% chance of losing rank for up to a year.

The other 80% no problem.

Moving a site twice in a year seams to have a 90% chance of problems.

followgreg




msg:3488925
 3:20 am on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)


I never had a problem when moving sites to another IP, DNS you name it!

However I recently suggested my boss NOT to move a couple of sites to another hosting.
I think that Google has huge problems indexing some pages/sites and there are no common factors that make sense.

I wouldn't move one inch for now if I were you.

b2net




msg:3489202
 2:01 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Of all G's reasons for filtering and penalizing this has to be one of the funniest ones.

It's too late for me because I already moved my site and the new host isn't even a good one. What if I move the site back to the old server?

kamikaze Optimizer




msg:3489392
 6:38 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I move my sites between dedicated IP's all the time, it is never an issue. In fact I am doing it today as I update the OS on one of my servers.

I think your issue might be if the IP is shared with a bad site or it was formally used by a bad site.

Robert Charlton




msg:3489407
 7:08 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Of all G's reasons for filtering and penalizing this has to be one of the funniest ones.

b2net - You seem to be making all sorts of assumptions about what Google is doing. From the description of problems you had during your move, it sounds like you might want to check issues with your server and DNS.

Generally, moving sites between IPs or hosting companies is not a problem for Google, as their indexing is domain-name based.

Why was your site not showing for half a day? Has that problem been fixed correctly? If you'd kept your site up on both old and new servers while making the change... generally the way it's done... the move should have been seamless.

For future reference re moving sites, Matt Cutts covers the issue in his blog....

Moving to a new web host
[mattcutts.com...]

Robert Charlton




msg:3489440
 8:20 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

A PS to the above...

I think your issue might be if the IP is shared with a bad site or it was formally used by a bad site.

"Bad sites" on the IP could do it.

Or, if it's an IP shared with other sites that provide the predominant link juice for your mini-site, that could cause the drop you observe. Google might see this arrangement as a closed network that's there to boost other members of the network. It's an arrangement that Google doesn't like.

glengara




msg:3489446
 8:31 pm on Oct 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Could also be that the change got that one page minisite "revalued"....

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