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Tool bar PR dropped by factor of 1 - anyone else?

 10:05 am on Oct 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

After years of PR6, my site's tool bar PR has dropped by a PR factor of 1 since this morning. Has anyone else noticed this - is there any chance that hand ediiting could be involved here. There has been no change in rankings.



 10:42 am on Oct 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

yes - same here 6 to 5 after years. It happened for a day or two a month ago, so may be temporary.


 11:34 am on Oct 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

you cant hand edit pr.....


 11:43 am on Oct 4, 2007 (gmt 0)


Are you sure?


 1:43 pm on Oct 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Mine has stayed the same, however.... Mine DID drop by a point several months ago when the updated 'how' the PR was calculated. Maybe it went through another calculation update, or it's the new tbpr, which mine didn't move if thats the case.

And yes, I believe you can have your PR manually adjusted. At least that's what it looked like when I reported someone for very suspicious activity.


 8:28 am on Oct 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

you cant hand edit pr because pr is a share of the whole.... you could have a factor after pr is calculated that reduces its affect..but you cant hand edit the real pr....i dont see why google would bother to add that layer given there are filters out there anyway to penalise in many other ways...

dont discount the affect of reducing the pr from inbound links (dampening, ignoring) rather than direct intervention...


 12:55 pm on Oct 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

There has been no change in rankings.

Then I wouldn't worry about it. What you are probably seeing is a PR reiteration and your space is getting a PR adjustment overall.

You could have been sitting at a PR 6.2 for those few years. It could have dropped to a 6.1 or even a 6.01 and you wouldn't have known it. Once you hit 6.0 then comes the adjustment to 5.99. No change in traffic? No big deal.

Have you also looked at other sites in your industry? Was there a "noticeable" drop for any of them? If not, then they probably were not right on the fence at 6.0.

The only time you need to worry about a PR change is when traffic is affected. When that occurs, then you know there is a potential problem. And, in that case, its usually a gray or white bar.

Did your interior pages remain the same? Any of them go up? Did you add more pages to the site in the past 180 days? How many? Did you change anything in click paths? All sorts of things can affect this.


 4:47 pm on Oct 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've been following a couple of different threads on other forums like dp that have been discussing a PR drop of -1.

Many have dropped, but none has reported any increase, or drop more than 1, so seems to be a "recalibration" of the scale.


 10:22 pm on Oct 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I wonder sometimes if PR is lost because sites linking to you are losing PR. The little guy has been losing PR over the last couple of years as there are more and bigger sites on the net.


 11:31 pm on Oct 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

What surprises me isn't that PR gets recalibrated, of course it does. But seeing the new PR propagate to the toolbar when there isn't a web-wide "PR update"? That makes me scratch my head a bit.


 4:32 am on Oct 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

But seeing the new PR propagate to the toolbar when there isn't a web-wide "PR update"? That makes me scratch my head a bit.

How do you tell there isn't a web-wide PR update?


 4:38 am on Oct 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Despite the relatively low importance of TBPR, when Google makes a fresh export of PR data, there's a lot of chatter about it all over the web. People who count on PR to work business deals care a whole lot and they make noise.


 5:18 am on Oct 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Danny Sullivan wrote a very informative post yesterday about the selective PR rollback some sites experienced last week, and makes some astonishing claims -

So I pinged Google, and they confirmed that PageRank scores are being lowered for some sites that sell links


In addition, Google said that some sites that are selling links may indeed end up being dropped from its search engine or have penalties attached to prevent them from ranking well


Google stressed, by the way, that the current set of PageRank decreases is not assigned completely automatically; the majority of these decreases happened after a human review.

Seems like big news to me. Did I miss someone pointing this out already?


 5:28 am on Oct 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

I definitely missed that one - thanks!

Official: Selling Paid Links Can Hurt Your PageRank Or Rankings On Google [searchengineland.com]

< Note: page rank is updating now across all sites: [webmasterworld.com...] >

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