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Can run-of-site one-way links hurt keyword ranking?
underglass




msg:3429401
 10:34 pm on Aug 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have a site owner linking to me from nearly all of their site pages. (We were supposed to exchange one for one links.) They are linking using the same keyword term, and it was duplicated across thier pages. I do not believe this was intentional - it is just the way their pages were set up. We are both about blue widgets. It is a quality site.

I cannot use previous performance of the keyword as a basis since I have had problems with it in the past....goes way up and down. Will this harm future ranking (all other things being equal, of course)? Should I ask the site owner to remove all of the links except for one? Is this a good thing?

Thank you!

 

tedster




msg:3429442
 11:30 pm on Aug 22, 2007 (gmt 0)

Are these one way links, or a link exchange where you also link back?

underglass




msg:3429521
 1:18 am on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

All but one are one way links. My one link to them points to their homepage.

nomis5




msg:3429623
 5:28 am on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Looking at the gaming sites with PR4 and above, lots seem to have site wide links to each other. Some of the owners of those sites have 10 or more sites, so they must have some idea of what works and what doesn't. My son is one of those. From what I know from him, site wide links work fine.

dibbern2




msg:3429700
 7:07 am on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

I believe I've been burned by sitewide linking schemes. They seemed to be an issue with a few directories that were 950'ed.

IMHO, I'd avoid them like the plague.

Of course, nothings 100% about G's penalty/ranking, just educated guessing in the dark.

Atomic




msg:3429722
 7:17 am on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Looking at the gaming sites with PR4 and above, lots seem to have site wide links to each other. Some of the owners of those sites have 10 or more sites, so they must have some idea of what works and what doesn't. My son is one of those. From what I know from him, site wide links work fine.

I have websites consisting of a single page with PR4 and higher and not a single link of any kind on the page. Does my lack of site-wide links mean I know what works and what doesn't. Not having site-wide links works fine.

Alex70




msg:3429944
 11:01 am on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

underglass,

same anchor text for all IBL's, many links at once, all links pointing to the homepage and no links to internal pages....those solutions should be avoided IMO or, at least, managed carefully.

soccer_star




msg:3430148
 1:44 pm on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

same anchor text for all IBL's, many links at once, all links pointing to the homepage and no links to internal pages....those solutions should be avoided IMO or, at least, managed carefully.

I second that. I did what I thought was an index page to index page link exchange with a site some time ago. Little did I realise they put my link on all 2,000 of their pages pointing to my home page. I was 950'd a few days later and didn't know why. When I noticed all these extra links (a few months later) I removed their link and got them to remove all my links and my site came out of 950 a few days later. Could've been coincedence, but gaining an immediate rush of identical links all pointing to the home page trips a Google filter IMHO.

underglass




msg:3430216
 2:55 pm on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Thank you for the replies!

So far, I have not been 950'd for the keyword. I remain in the same place (same page) before the G found the links.

As this site gets more popular, the links may generate decent traffic for my site. I am cautious to ask for removal for this reason. Would it be better to report the link to G as a paid link even though it is not? It has the look of one.

Tonearm




msg:3430249
 3:34 pm on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Sounds like setting up sitewide links to a competitor would be a good idea if that's true.

nomis5




msg:3430315
 4:25 pm on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Only if they have a higher PR and return the favour? Sounds like in this case the backlinks are more valuable than the links out.

Atomic




msg:3430397
 5:43 pm on Aug 23, 2007 (gmt 0)

Could've been coincedence, but gaining an immediate rush of identical links all pointing to the home page trips a Google filter IMHO.

While I have sites and pages with no links I also have a couple sites with site-wide one-way outgoing links to a certain domain of mine. Looking back I recall a short lived dip in ranking but 3 and a half years later this problem has long since disappeared.

So is this effect temporary? Or does the problem have less to do with the link itself and more to do with who's linking to who?

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