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Anyone Seeing a PR update?
trinorthlighting




msg:3393973
 5:34 pm on Jul 13, 2007 (gmt 0)

We are seeing a PR update on one of our site. Anyone else seeing one?

 

reseller




msg:3411422
 1:34 pm on Aug 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

whitenight

Now poof. Ah well. False alarm ;)

Never trust a ToolBar :-)

subhendu




msg:3412417
 6:50 am on Aug 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

It was for a short duration. During the starting of the day traffic was down by 15% but at the end of the day it has matched ( or little less ) to the daily average.

I can say there was some changes which got restored within the day.

tedster




msg:3412423
 6:57 am on Aug 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just to be clear, toolbar PR is a mere reporting function. It does not affect traffic or rankings calculation.

Real PR is used to calculate rankings in private, but real PR is not what the toolbar shows. It shows a historical snapshot of what PR was for the url - the value from the last time that real data was exported for the toolbar reporting function. That update only happens about 4 times a year, and it's been several months since the last export (update) of PR data.

followgreg




msg:3412508
 9:00 am on Aug 3, 2007 (gmt 0)


I actually wonder sometimes if Google is about to drop it, as tedster said, it seems like google doesn't update the toolbar so often anymore.
Last time they did it was weird because some sites got a PR0 but it did not impact rankings (well it shouldn't anyways)

Anyhow...I see the update right now...as of 8/03

Ravi_Kumar




msg:3412537
 9:56 am on Aug 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Followgreg, can you tell at which DC the update is visible?

followgreg




msg:3412766
 3:08 pm on Aug 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

I see it on 64.233.167.19.

It seems to be a very old data push, 7 weeks old or so I'd say according to pages on some of our sites.

netmeg




msg:3412775
 3:11 pm on Aug 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Can't say as I see anything.

cabowabo




msg:3412961
 5:24 pm on Aug 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm not seeing any movement ... not even on the datacenter followgreg posted. I do feel that the PR toolbar will suffer the same fate as the SI tag has soon.

Seochennai




msg:3413682
 5:53 pm on Aug 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Me too not able to find any update for my sites both toolbar and datacenters...

stevelibby




msg:3413809
 9:25 pm on Aug 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

hi guys and girls
i have noticed this evening that a few client websites that i have created over the past 3 months have gone from grey bar to white bar, maybe we are starting to get the google pr update now, well at least acknowledgement of new sites in their index.

dickbaker




msg:3413853
 10:41 pm on Aug 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I put my new site up two months ago. It went from no PR to PR 0 today.

Ah, well. It's a start.

reseller




msg:3414023
 6:55 am on Aug 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

Folks!

You can't call grey bar to white bar changes as PR update.

How about a Toolbar bug, for exampel :-)

followgreg




msg:3414041
 7:44 am on Aug 5, 2007 (gmt 0)


It seems like URI's with new PR are those that were either forgotten during the last update or those that were messed up earlier this year (grey bar for no apparent reason, there's been a few).

Actually this would not be a Toolbar bug but more of a "toolbar fix".

I don't think that Google will drop the toolbar PR though. It's as useless as entertaining.

stevelibby




msg:3414047
 7:52 am on Aug 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

all webs that i have created always start off as grey bar, until g notices them that is, and is normally around an update of some sorts, coz pr genurally follows grey to white on new sites that i have created and then g takes into account the links too the site such as dmoz and such like and give pr..

whitenight




msg:3414079
 8:37 am on Aug 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

new PR are those that were either forgotten during the last update

Indeed, that's exactly what it looks like. Nice catch.

It's as useless as entertaining.

lol, that's classic. Perhaps a new trademark phrase?

Ann4SEO




msg:3416494
 6:09 am on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I agree with followgreg
It seems like URI's with new PR are those that were either forgotten during the last update or those that were messed up earlier this year (grey bar for no apparent reason, there's been a few).

Actually this would not be a Toolbar bug but more of a "toolbar fix".

I don't think that Google will drop the toolbar PR though. It's as useless as entertaining.

My client website got grey PR which now changed to white PR in all data centers.

But at a same time, when i m checking my other clients website PR, i find in few data centers PR 0 & others current PR.

What a confusing? From now onwards, i wont check any PR update.

edd1




msg:3416501
 6:44 am on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've gone from 3 to 0. Rankings not affected. I'm sure it's a blip because rationally I'd expect it to go up if anything.

Interent Yogi




msg:3416654
 11:02 am on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yes definity a tool export of PR.

I have 5 sites that have had no Green all go to Pr 3-5

c41lum




msg:3416660
 11:14 am on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have not seen a PR change but we have lost 90% of all the positions we have recovered this year.

Anybody else seeing this.

Miamacs




msg:3416684
 11:59 am on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Is it get your daily fix of green /or/ get your daily green fix?

Seeing some strange things already, others report paranoid visions...
It's OK that some of the pages that were forgotten got their score card but, a brand new domain went to PR4 too. With the other kittens in the basket slammed with a PR0... I've been comforting them ever since... but perhaps it's but a delay of the senses.

I wonder if it's just the usual method of Google rolling out the green... you know...
This inhale... exhale... kind of way.

Previously it was the time they displayed backup data while their datacenters were fast distributing the new stuff. Last time the first indication of an update was that all sites went to PR0 for a while... rankings unaffected of course.

But right now, I wonder... if it's just them sitting back and cracking up in laughter seeing our ideas. ( translation: another SEO probe ). Whatever, I won't hold my breath on this one either.

Kinda backwards though. Reverse drive: first the green bar builds up, then goes white, then goes gray... ( has anyone else seen Josie and the Pussycats? I mean the movie. )

As mind numbing as golf.

lgn1




msg:3416819
 1:56 pm on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well its been a 100 days since the last toolbar update, so I would expect changes soon. Google has been averaging 98-102 days for the past two years.

The longest time between toolbar update has been 122 days, which occured after the big daddy update in early 06.

Personally, I would like to see the PR toolbar go away, as long as it grey bars for everybody. Having it freeze with existing PR (circa spring 2007)forever would not be a good idea.

netmeg




msg:3416832
 2:16 pm on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing a lot of PR2 on about 300 newer internal pages that were previously PR0 or grey-barred (I changed my url structure in the off season, which means I basically reset them back to 0, and now they're catching up again). No change on the home page, though, which surprises me because I've collected a lot of new links there. But as long as the rankings don't change, it's all good to me.

edd1




msg:3417398
 11:10 pm on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

There are definitely changes afoot. All of our pages which legitimately should be going up have been whited out with no changes in ranking. New pages that were grey are now white, 3s and 4s are now white too.

Is it a coincidence that another thread is questioning whether page rank should be dumped just as the early stages of an update seem to be taking place? Could Google be in the process of dumping PR at the moment?

edd1




msg:3417403
 11:11 pm on Aug 8, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just to clarify, I couldn't care less if PR is dumped, it would be a good idea, I just wonder if the debate is relevant to what we're seeing here

bw3ttt




msg:3418220
 7:17 pm on Aug 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

All of my new sites went from gray to white today and also the link: and related: operators are starting to show results as of 8/09..

stevelibby




msg:3420232
 5:40 pm on Aug 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

So in conclusion have we seen a pr update or update of forgotten sites or have we seen a backlink update

Kristos




msg:3420304
 7:41 pm on Aug 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

Definitely a PR update.
One of our sites came up from a PR7 to a PR8

janedoe




msg:3420394
 10:52 pm on Aug 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

i cant see any chanches

edd1




msg:3420403
 11:17 pm on Aug 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

As I said we've dropped some pages from 3 or 4 down to 0 (white) and our greys have turned white too. I suspect it's the preliminaries to a full pr update over the next few days.

lgn1




msg:3421650
 11:38 am on Aug 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

It has now been 106 days, which is a tie for second place without a PR update. The record is 122 days (after big daddy).

I have seen our competition go from PR 6 or 7 to PR 0.

This may be a preclude to an update, or maybe Google is finally dumping the PR toolbar without much fanfare.

Nothing for our site however.

edd1




msg:3422397
 2:36 am on Aug 15, 2007 (gmt 0)

6 or 7 down to 0!

That makes my drop seem minimal. I hope they don't take PR too seriously or they'll be running round with very high blood pressure for a few days!

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