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June 2007 Google SERP Changes
steveb

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 3:31 am on Jun 1, 2007 (gmt 0)

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And now it has all completely changed to a result set similar to what wwas around a week ago.. gone are all the trivial bits of nothing.

Seems like somebody woke up down at the 'plex... "Oh crap, forgot to flip the 'make the results better' switch."

(Again, this only really applies to one word searches.)

[edited by: tedster at 4:37 pm (utc) on July 1, 2007]

 

steveb

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 8:21 am on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Another major shakeup for a one word term, with an wildly improbable #1 result.

And that #1 result is #22 on all the datacenters which pretty much confirms they are nothing to pay attention to anymore.

(Multiple word searches in my area continue to not change too much -- some but not these massive shifts -- and are of much better quality than the bizarre one word search.)

thecityofgold2005

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 8:32 am on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Just done a search on 'airlines' across multiple DC's... I see the point now about 1 word phrases. There are two entirely different sets of serps. Quite unlike any 2 word phrases I've tested.

One set with informational sites (eg wiki) at positions 1-9 and one with actual airline websites at 1-6.

Crazy stuff.

netmeg

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 8:48 am on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've got more pages going 950 as of today. And the results above me are absolutely way out of whack, with #1-5 being events from 2003-2005. On the other hand, I'm getting more and more pages OUT of supplemental every day. Getting weirder all the time.

trocobob

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 10:39 am on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

This change of serp has began from 28 May

I lost too many Keywords + the traffic has decreased with more than 60%

i went from 12.000 daily to 6000 visits a day .

this is terrible . for me .
I wonder if the Sepr will change again and return to their Originals ..

asusplay

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 12:41 pm on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

This change of serp has began from 28 May
I lost too many Keywords + the traffic has decreased with more than 60%

i went from 12.000 daily to 6000 visits a day .

this is terrible . for me .
I wonder if the Sepr will change again and return to their Originals ..

I saw a similar drop from the 29th. Like you, I hope this doesn't stick.

drall

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 12:47 pm on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Same here, another big drop on one of our pr7 sites on the 29th, about 40% traffic drop. We buy no text links so I dont think it is due to that. A rapid increase in supps for this site coincided at the same time so it most likely has to do with this.

kdobson99

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 1:39 pm on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Rankpulse shows that the past week or so has been the most volatile of the year by far. So what you are seeing is real.

offroadvietnam



 
Msg#: 3355500 posted 1:45 pm on Jun 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

This is probably one of the biggest updates in 2007. I feel Google search is much better now than two weeks ago. Yahoo and MSN are very stable, anyone has news about a possible merge between them.

nippi

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 12:51 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

looks classic dance, but which classic? the one where one set off results roll out for a week, then another? then another?

I've got 4 different set of results across data centres.

1 for me is gold, and truth be told, its not justified.
1 is no change.
1 is slightly down.
1, is WAY down.

No idea where it will settle.

The gold one seems to have anchor text as the major factor.
The way down one..... seems to downvalue all recip style links.

walkman



 
Msg#: 3355500 posted 12:55 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

nippi,
are they divided somewhat equally or do most DCs have one set?

myk02

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 5:44 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

On May 14, 2007 I noticed a drop of 30% of my traffic and after that I am continuously facing -ve effect in my ranking and traffic.

One of my hot one word keyword loosed its ranking from 1st page to 40th page.

It's a major update from Google, might be Google has made some changes in their Algo!

lakr

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 8:32 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

My Google rankings stay the same, and Yahoo ranking increases a little bit.

In my case, luck plays more important than expertise.

Lkr

netmeg

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 10:16 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

All my 950 pages came back this morning. Will it last? I dunno, I sure hope so!

norbiu

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 11:04 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I also had a huge drop myself. What's going on?

asusplay

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 11:17 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing a return this morning in the serps to many rankings one particular website lost (UK based).

It does seem strange. I hope this lasts as this site was blasted in the last 4 or 5 days.

tigger

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 11:59 am on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I don't rely on G anymore, the only traffic that is stable is Y & MSN, if I get anything from G its a bonus, admittedly a massive one but I no longer check the serps as it will most likely be gone next time I check

[edited by: tedster at 5:09 pm (utc) on June 4, 2007]
[edit reason] fix typo [/edit]

lordpercy

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 12:51 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Another Google hokey cokey for me.

My whole site seems to drop in and out of the main SERPS every week, it started in March where the whole month was a washout (not quite 950 terriorty but very poor ranking). April was back in for 3 weeks then dropped for 2 weeks now I alternate in and out every week!

This is madness something must be broken, either my site should or should not be ranking well but not changing dramatically every single week!

Is anyone else seeing this and how are we meant to let google know given there are so few feedback channels?

LP

Umbertide

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 2:52 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

yes this is exactly our experience although the timeline is different (between December and now). One long blast in the wilderness, then back for a few weeks, then out, now at least one day per week usually between Thursday and Sunday.

We havent done much to our site except change the internal link structure a bit (changed from linked images to text links)

Very very annoying!

castar

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 2:59 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Same here, NutMeg. My 950'd pages came back on June 1st. Like you said, I hope it sticks. Did your pages come back a couple of weeks ago, and return to the end of the results after three or four days? Are others seeing their 950'd pages return to previous positions?

SEOPTI

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 3:13 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

The -950 filter kicks in again.

netmeg

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 3:20 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Did your pages come back a couple of weeks ago, and return to the end of the results after three or four days?

No, they have been at the top of the results for three years until May 25th, when they tanked. Came back some time last night. So they were out about nine days.

pizzaguy

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 3:26 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

Ok dream came to end. Back to my normal rankings, it was good for a couple days.

walkman



 
Msg#: 3355500 posted 3:41 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

pizzaguy,
when did that happen? I still see some changes sticking

Umbertide

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 3:49 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

is anyone seeing different results on datacentres or is that old practice now?

caveman

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 4:12 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

walkman, ya, it's still a mess. The biggest problems seem to be:
- irrelavant geo listings -- eveything from local listings to far-flung international listings crowding their way into what were previously mainly clean SERP's,
- missing middle-tier high quality sites that should be included (and had been), and,
- very odd results for tons of core searches.

It continues to look like one of those old-fashioned updates where they tossed it out there before it was soup and so it continues to boil away. So far though, still way too uncooked to stomach.

It's long been the case that oddball and inappropriate geo sites sometimes temporarily find their way into the SERP's, but what bothers me more is the loss of some high quality middle-tier sites. It smacks of the same issue I've seen since pre-Big Daddy where high quality small sites become collateral damage. If that problem is now creeping up the food chain, it would be take a bad situation and make it noticeably worse.

Around the time of Big Daddy, for the first time since Google's inception, I started hearing a significant number of "man on the street" observations about declining quality of G SERP's. Not enough to change much, buut noticeable.

The sheer force of G's distribution and mindshare is enough to allow them to hang onto -- if not grow -- share of searches even in spite of a weakening product. But as with all things, reality does eventually catch up with perception. If this is an expansion of the collateral damage problem, and if this sort of result set sticks, the perception lost quality might creep a bit further into the mass consciousness.

pizzaguy

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 4:13 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

I am now back to a week ago. For one week I received great traffic for my targeted keywords but now I lost all my rankings.

Well, we have to learn without living with Google...

tigger

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 4:47 pm on Jun 4, 2007 (gmt 0)

>I started hearing a significant number of "man on the street" observations about declining quality of G SERP's.

and the nice thing is even the media now are saying about using other SE's, I heard a guy on the radio today comment about using Y to find some cheap tickets - lets hope this is the decline on the dominance that G has over webmasters and a more fairer sharing of traffic so its not a case of succeed on G or fail

Beachboy

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 4:23 am on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

Stale is good, I guess. Wish I were in charge of search engine marketing at Yahoo. lol I'd hang somebody out to dry.

Robert Charlton

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 5:49 am on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

In some sectors, much of the same junk that's risen to the top at Yahoo has risen to the top at Google. The inbounds are blended with legitimate stuff to such an extent that you might wonder how any engine or any spam team can sort it out.

My concern is how much more collateral damage there's going to be when Google cleans this up, if they can. One thought I've had is that Google may be showing more of this than usual to elicit spam reports from competitors. I hope these results are not the best they can do.

Vimes

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 6:42 am on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

Anyone else noticed / seen a huge drop in the totals the site: gives on these Dcís

64.233.161.*
64.233.171.*
66.102.1.*
66.249.83.*
72.14.211.*

Iíve lost half of my reported totals on those DCís

Serpís are still holding Ö.. for now

Vimes.

Vimes

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Msg#: 3355500 posted 6:46 am on Jun 5, 2007 (gmt 0)

Added sorry...

back link check on cnn gives some really funky totals on those DC's as well

Vimes.

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