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PR drops to Zero for some long established sites

 4:00 pm on Apr 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

Has anyone noticed a sudden drop to a PR0? A few people over on the Google groups board have gone from PR5-6's to nothing overnight. These sites are very established, non-spammy and have been online since 2000.

The SERPS however, have not been affected. Curious if anyone else is seeing this.



 4:25 pm on Apr 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yes. I am seeing it for one of my sites. PR5 to zero on the index page. Some of the internal pages still have PR4/5 etc..

The site is a stable, slowly changing resource that has been around with PR5 since 1998.


 5:20 pm on Apr 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

Me too. Same problem. Traffic actually went up.


 5:32 pm on Apr 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

I've seen that sometimes before a toolbar update. If your traffic is okay, it's probably not a big deal.


 9:09 pm on Apr 25, 2007 (gmt 0)

thanks to everyone who commented.

Interent Yogi

 2:32 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)


Yes I have noticed that 2 of my main websites have gone from PR 5 to PR 0. Both sites are over 4 years old.

Personally I think that it IS cause for concern .

One site has not been modified at all in the past 6 months.

Both sites have NOT had the any change in the SERPS but I suspect that it may be around the corner. Both sites do really well.


 3:29 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Seen it to.
PR0 no traffic change.


 3:42 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yes some of the PR checking tools do show major sites at Zero. And yes, I do notice this usually happens before a PR update.

Interent Yogi

 4:25 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

One thing that I would mention is that the 2 sites that have zero PR one links to the other on about 150 odd pages. For legimate traffice purposes and the other has a couple of links back.

Anything similar on any of the other sites that have gone to Zero?


 4:58 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yes, seeing it too on a 1999 domain. PR6 to PR0.


 5:16 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

The toolbar has been a bit glitchy. Like when going from a PR7 site to another one with lower PR, the PR7 will still show in the toolbar for the other site. Not steadily, just here and there.

Bet there's a TB update coming up soon.


 5:43 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

I noticed the same on an older site... no drop in serps either but pr0 in toolbar. The last time this happened nothing happened and it eventually went back to its pr.


 5:49 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Yeah, I'm thinking it's no biggie as toolbar PR does not reflect the current reality. Any fallout from a wiped out PR would have happened already.


 11:05 am on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

The problem with the public version of PageRank is usually a glitchy toolbar or an index update where the values are being re-calculated.


 3:13 pm on Apr 26, 2007 (gmt 0)

Windows Explorer PR toolbar is working fine for me, Firefox isn't.

My Serps had a drop off around Easter, weather & holidays?

But my traffic levels are now where they should be.

Also I believe Google are making changes, possibly algo, at the moment, only they know...


 5:07 am on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I think its around 3 days since those pages are at pr0, usually with updates they fluctuate for a short period of time?

Something strange about this?


 11:05 am on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

HI Guys

I have had the samething. PR 5 to 0. Started in my toolbar then I checked datacentres. 60% of the datacentres yesterday said I was still on PR5. Then today all datacentres say 0. My results in SERPS are still excellent and traffic the same. Is it time to panic?

Has this happened to anyone else before and if so how long did it take for the PR to comeback?

One other question please I havent been here for a while and was wondering if Googleguy still drops by to let us know whats happening?

[edited by: zimba at 11:09 am (utc) on April 27, 2007]


 11:06 am on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hello All,

same this haapened with my site. google PR updation is in progress? bcoz i lost my 5PR today...yesterday google tool bar showes 5PR of my site. one of my competitor also lost the PR. can anybody tell me what is going on in google..

still showing :
google baclink - 190
pages index on google - 250

So is this a some kind of updation or what?



 11:10 am on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

My main site has gone from PR4 to 0.

All the internal pages I have checked have also dropped to 0.

I just noticed it today, no idea how long it has been like that for


 11:12 am on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Got a funny leap-jump-drop as well. PR went up, resulting about triple the normal hits, this happened on Monday April 23 and it went down the drain again as of yesterday. I did not change a thing in the website in the meantime. Nada zip.

Drives me nuts that this is completely incomprehensible.


 11:26 am on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

ZIMBA : very true and same happened here, infact those sites which went to pr0 all had the same thing, some specific data centers were showing original pr (60% of them) while others showing 0, today all are showing 0.


 11:35 am on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Are you guys checking the www version of the pages and the non www version as well?


 12:24 pm on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I am checking www vs non-www.

Both PR0 from PR5.

...also noticed a backlink update accross all sites..revised down as per normal.


 2:33 pm on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Same here. PR4 down to 0. Site's gone from PR3 to PR4 on the last major PR update. It cant be accidental that so many well PR-ed sites are down. I am worried. It seems we are gone from SERPs too. What is going on? Traffic is still steady...


 2:56 pm on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

My main site has gone from PR5 to 0. But our backlinks up to 620 from 190. Traffic still same.


 3:04 pm on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

I see it now on our newer site that just spun off. Looks like a back link update is spreading. Its on about 1/2 the data centers now.


 3:20 pm on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

My site which has been around since 1998 and had a pr of 6 has dropped to zero as well - I'm so scared. What else could this mean other than something bad?


 5:16 pm on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Well, since yesterday my PageRank has dropped to 0 (zero). I checked my PageRank with an online PageRank check tool & all data centers show 0!

Would really appreciate if someone could explain this!



 5:49 pm on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Ours did that last update, but we did not lose any traffic. So if your traffic is the same do not worry about it.


 6:19 pm on Apr 27, 2007 (gmt 0)

Our established company and web presence, also went to pr zero. I wonder if there is a toolbar glitch on a single Google data center... are company is in S. California... anyone else?

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