Decius
msg:3249803 | 6:48 am on Feb 12, 2007 (gmt 0) |
There have been various proven reports that webmaster tools such as the sitemap upload etc. has resulted in quite sudden and severe drop in rankings. I have not heard of GA resulting in this, and it is unlikely this has resulted in a change within the span of 5 days. On the other hand, if you have not noticed any fluctuations in your spot for a long time and it has suddenly ocurred and nothing huge has been changed, it is far more likely that GA does in fact have something to do with it. I personally removed GA and all webmaster tools a few months ago after experiencing a catastrophically bad drop on more than one site.
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znakedwrx
msg:3249891 | 8:52 am on Feb 12, 2007 (gmt 0) |
I did experiance same thing with Google Analytics. Site dropped down for 6-12 spots. After i removed the Google Analytics, after ~10 days site got back to normal spot. Then for test - i added back Google Analytics and site dropped down again. Now i am testing to see if my site will go up again within few days after removing Google Analytics.
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RandomOne
msg:3249927 | 10:22 am on Feb 12, 2007 (gmt 0) |
QUOTE "After 4-5 days of running analytics the drop in rankings happened. Has anyone had a similar experience? " I definately dropped right off the scale after adding Google Analytics - I wondered what was the problem I removed it about 5 days ago but things are still extremely bad, I hope it gets better.
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Idaho
msg:3249988 | 12:21 pm on Feb 12, 2007 (gmt 0) |
Me too. Site dropped about 6 places and off of page 1 for a very big term about a week ago, which was about 5 - 10 days after add GA. I haven't uploaded a sitemap.
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pageoneresults
msg:3250016 | 1:00 pm on Feb 12, 2007 (gmt 0) |
| I personally removed GA and all webmaster tools a few months ago after experiencing a catastrophically bad drop on more than one site. |
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Did that have any impact?
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joelgreen
msg:3250523 | 9:28 pm on Feb 12, 2007 (gmt 0) |
Organic traffic to my site lower and lower starting Feb 9th, and I had Google Analytics installed long before. So I assume Google Analytics has nothing to do with it (but Google could rank your sire depending on you site's traffic sources, IMO). Maybe it was some rank rearrangement or some test in process. But I changed provider 5 days before the organic traffic drop, so that may be the issue in my case.
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Decius
msg:3250651 | 11:54 pm on Feb 12, 2007 (gmt 0) |
I have no way of knowing if removing it has fixed anything as I changed a whole lot of other things that have a larger impact. But I do know that adding those features did cause a drop in more than one site, without any other real causes.
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cdog863
msg:3250848 | 3:51 am on Feb 13, 2007 (gmt 0) |
Yea I instantly removed Analytics the second I noticed the drop. I had an issue like this with site maps before too and never recovered. I will update my results
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cdog863
msg:3254969 | 10:27 pm on Feb 16, 2007 (gmt 0) |
Well my ranking has gone down 20 more positions. Any one else getting more changes?
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frances
msg:3255102 | 12:57 am on Feb 17, 2007 (gmt 0) |
i added analytics to one site that had been top for its keywords for a couple of years about a year ago and it dropped half way down the page. i removed it after a week or so and it went back up and has stayed there ever since. have sitemaps for a number of sites and never had a similar effect from that.
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cdog863
msg:3255687 | 7:55 pm on Feb 17, 2007 (gmt 0) |
how long did it take to get your ranking back up?
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frances
msg:3255695 | 8:11 pm on Feb 17, 2007 (gmt 0) |
Very quick - cant remember exactly - a week? - fast enough for me to not want to test it again on any site i cared about. My speculation at the time was that it may have been because we only get about 500 visitors a day - actually not bad for the sector but google may view it as low and therefore downgradable. But Ive no idea. What I know for sure is that was the only time we moved off the top in about 3 years.
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cdog863
msg:3256395 | 11:48 pm on Feb 18, 2007 (gmt 0) |
Well 10 days after dropping analytics we're back in the top 5. whew
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SEOPTI
msg:3273774 | 11:59 am on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0) |
Added Analytics to 4 huge trusted sites. All of them dropped. What a pain. [edited by: SEOPTI at 12:02 pm (utc) on Mar. 7, 2007]
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zeus
msg:3273789 | 12:23 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0) |
Here a hint, why do you think google is trying to get webmasters to sign up for everything, its JUST to monitor everything you do, that way they know:
-how many sites you have
-category
-affiliates/advertising
-is there any future in you site, which they maybe have overseen, then they could start simlar site.
-of cause check if you have any spamming
-better rank you site, be cause of all the info, which could be negativ, be cause they dont have that info of your competition. Thats also why I dont have anything to do with google, not that Im spamming, but with all that info they get you never know what happens to your site and thats just to big a risk, when google rules the net. now think about that befor signing up for anything with a SE.
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glengara
msg:3273860 | 1:09 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0) |
My hunch is that sites that make use of the G services have their linkage revalued along post BD guidelines, so a lot of recips lose their "juice"...
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rj87uk
msg:3273863 | 1:14 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0) |
I started using Google Analytics on a new website with no rankings, done several reciprocal links some one ways and so on, loads of content and today I find I rank page one in Google for my target term. I also signed up for Google Webmaster Tools, submitted a site map and all is going well. Still no deep content pages are indexed in Google for anyone that read my other thread.
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Simsi
msg:3273945 | 2:40 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0) |
| Here a hint, why do you think google is trying to get webmasters to sign up for everything, its JUST to monitor everything you do...but with all that info they get you never know what happens to your site and thats just to big a risk, when google rules the net. |
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That occurred to me some time back but I decided it was just paranoia. You could actually name benefits from them knowing this, most notably that the website is cared for and nurtured, updated regularly and current if nothing else.
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zeus
msg:3273989 | 3:13 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0) |
Simsi "most notably that the website is cared for and nurtured, updated regularly and current if nothing else." well all that can be done by googlebot, thats also why I think this sitemap thing is a little overrated.
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netmeg
msg:3274005 | 3:27 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0) |
My site is also ranking at or near the top for all conceivable search phrases, after submitting a sitemap, and then some months later after adding GA. I have 62 sites in Webmaster Central, and maybe 15 in GA, and none of them have experience any kind of drop I can attribute to the sitemap or Google Analytics. And I keep copiously obsessive records.
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hakanhaknuz
msg:3274092 | 4:19 pm on Mar 7, 2007 (gmt 0) |
I am wondering though, how well optimized are your websites?
Is it possible that G came to some sort of conclusion,
(of course, after having gained more information about your sites, by you signing up for their services) that your websites , were maybe over optimized or in any way not following their guidelines?
If that's the case i can assume that it can work both ways, when your absolutely following their guidelines you can be #1 when content matches. But i your case i am wondering if that party requesting you to sign up for analytics, maybe misused that information?
Did you check the ones that we're now on top of G?
Wasn't it just a trick to lower sales price?
Especially the quick and sudden change does support that theory.
Maybe there were new sites added to the index that we're better optimized than yours.. For the record i use most of their services and have not experienced huge fluctuations in rankings, in any case not in the long run.
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zaneta
msg:3274879 | 5:28 am on Mar 8, 2007 (gmt 0) |
I have also the same problem from the moment I have added Google Analytics my site lost position. This never happened the pasted 5 yeras.
Do you also believe that that submiting google sitemap affects sites position?
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